Type 4 turbo: 2,2 ltr: New cooling system

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what on earth??
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Yeah, like that ;-)
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Might be worth attempting making clear "tin" so you don't hide anything :twisted:
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just checking in, I miss this thread.

Anything new to show off?

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Yep Rich
Wally sold the setup

Boo boo

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Red the topic once more and got more inspiration to boost stock engine for a start, cause it takes major mount of money to spin it faster but almoust nothing to add some boost :lol:
Everything whats needed is in this topic, just dig it :`)
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Are the Apfelbeck heads still a work in progress? And if cash flow is what's slowing the project down, have the project leads considered using a crowd funding site like kickstarter? I'm sure there are a lot of type 1 and type 4 folks out there that would donate some cash in order to actually see these come to light, myself included.
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I started reading it once more, cause I'm looking for a cam for 2,0T
I thaught that 222hp / 300Nm @ 1 bar of boost was already 2,2L engine. Fortunately it was 2,0 914 engine :) I like it and 200hp / 300Nm are numbers I would like to get but I have to spin the engine to 7000RPM cause I'm out of gears. But what cam was in this engine and why did U pulled to around 5000 only? (Graph didn't fall yet)
Was there webcam 163 ? what do you think about 163/86B cam? Would U change stock 108 Lobo center

Thanks alot
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joosep wrote:I started reading it once more, cause I'm looking for a cam for 2,0T
I thaught that 222hp / 300Nm @ 1 bar of boost was already 2,2L engine. Fortunately it was 2,0 914 engine :) I like it and 200hp / 300Nm are numbers I would like to get but I have to spin the engine to 7000RPM cause I'm out of gears. But what cam was in this engine and why did U pulled to around 5000 only? (Graph didn't fall yet)
That was all with a COMPLETELY stock (and old) 914 2.0 engine core!
So by now you probably guessed already what cam was in there huh? :wink:

Even more funny was that with the addition of JUST Pauter ratio rockers and single HD springs on that same engine and turbo, it made 270 hp :)
T4T: 2,4ltr Type 4 Turbo engine, 10.58 1/4 mi
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:lol:

Ok, You escaped I'll keep reading cam topics.....really hard choice when U can choose between more than 1 :D
I dont know what to wait, cause I've never bought any cam or driven with performance cam.....Ok Actually I've tuned 1 MK1 scirocco what revvs to moon (We have gone up to 9300 with 300+ degree cam but it doesn't help
I just need to rev my type 4 to 7000 and when my stock cam is busted anyway I need tomething else.

keep up the good work. - Like your project.
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Get a new stock cam. Find a talker diff or have a custom 4th gear made and see what the type 4 will do on 1 bar. :D
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what ratio was on the pauter rockers? was the boost same? :)
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joosep wrote:what ratio was on the pauter rockers? was the boost same? :)
Pauter rockers are rated 1,48 ratio but are more about 1.5 in reality.
Yes, exactly same 1.0 bar boost on both dyno runs.
T4T: 2,4ltr Type 4 Turbo engine, 10.58 1/4 mi
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Wally wrote: Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:30 pm Turned up the boost some more at today's dynoday and the engine takes anything you throw at it..
465 hp and 564Nm (418lbs.ft) @ flywheel:
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Hey Wally, your dyno graph pic went away. Can you share it again? Thx
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