Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
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Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
Hello all, first time poster here. Joe Cali suggested that I join, so everyone can blame him. Now let's cut the chitchat and get to business.
I like Frankenstein customs. Not just bitsa projects, but also the stuff that makes traditionalists and purists cringe. So I'm putting an ACVW in a '27 Ford hot rod, mounted IN FRONT and mated to a Quaife 6 spd sequential transmission for rear wheel drive. I think I quite prefer the Type 4 to the Type 1.
Anyone happen to know:
1) The overall width of a Type 4 (upright cooling or longblock, not pancake).
2) The distance in inches or cm between Type 4 exhaust ports (I want to keep the headers and exhaust inside the frame rails).
I like Frankenstein customs. Not just bitsa projects, but also the stuff that makes traditionalists and purists cringe. So I'm putting an ACVW in a '27 Ford hot rod, mounted IN FRONT and mated to a Quaife 6 spd sequential transmission for rear wheel drive. I think I quite prefer the Type 4 to the Type 1.
Anyone happen to know:
1) The overall width of a Type 4 (upright cooling or longblock, not pancake).
2) The distance in inches or cm between Type 4 exhaust ports (I want to keep the headers and exhaust inside the frame rails).
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Re: Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
Oddly the one dimension that is smaller than a type-1 is width (valve cover bail to valve cover bail) but not by much. For a beetle engine 29-30” is typical.
I would guess that the exhaust ports are around 21” center to center
I would guess that the exhaust ports are around 21” center to center
Yeah some may call it overkill, but you can't have too much overkill.
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Re: Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
My Type 4 with alloy valve covers is around 30" and as stated allow 23" for your exhaust ports . I have always thought it would be fun to turn up to a Subaru event with a STi ,powered by a high HP Type 4 with a big pair of IDA's poking out the bonnet .
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Thankee much, lads!
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Re: Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
Note the ports are angled out a few degrees, <10. I'll try and get a measurement tonight.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Re: Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
Piledriver wrote:Note the ports are angled out a few degrees, <10. I'll try and get a measurement tonight.
Thanks heaps, sir.
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Re: Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/download/ ... w&id=18121
Just over 23 inches from the outside of the parallel pipes , the outwards swinging pipe is wider to keep the lengths the same but you would be running the pipes back the other way . An interesting project,
Just over 23 inches from the outside of the parallel pipes , the outwards swinging pipe is wider to keep the lengths the same but you would be running the pipes back the other way . An interesting project,
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Re: Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
HI Nicho. See I told you this was the place to go. I also saw Samba was no so fast to respond, ha.
Ok serious, when i asked you what you were putting it in you did not tell me. Now I see your creation and love it.
Strange I have been recently searching for front engined vw conversions and hear you are.
I saw one a few years ago and it looked like the way the Morgan 3 wheeler had it's engine way up front, very airplane like.
Nice work.
Ok serious, when i asked you what you were putting it in you did not tell me. Now I see your creation and love it.
Strange I have been recently searching for front engined vw conversions and hear you are.
I saw one a few years ago and it looked like the way the Morgan 3 wheeler had it's engine way up front, very airplane like.
Nice work.
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Re: Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
What i want to see is how you get the power to the rear wheels, Bug tranny??? Your shifter linkage must be interesting.
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Re: Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
NextGen wrote:
Nice work.
Thanks, Joe! I hope my front engine project inspires you. I'm putting a VW beam-style front end on it, too, just like in the photo. So at this point does this mean the hot rod is a '27 Ford or a Volksrod?
The transmission will be a Quaife 6 spd sequential transmission. The shift lever will be positioned just above my knees and just below my crotch, with the steering wheel being an airplane-style half moon yolk to allow me to comfortably grab between my legs while keeping one hand free for steering.
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Re: Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
Sounds interesting...
A 924/944 style torque tube setup might work too.
(transaxle out back)
A 924/944 style torque tube setup might work too.
(transaxle out back)
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Re: Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
I had to do a google search on == Quaife 6 spd sequential transmission. Very cool looking tranny. Just have mate the tranny and flywheel up. The drive shaft should not be a problem.
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Re: Type 4 Dimensions In A Ford Hot Rod
A bus bell housing would be trivial to adapt... Cheap too.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.