411/412 racecar pictures

vwbill · Post by **vwbill** » Sun May 20, 2007 1:25 am

I was going to do the HD oil pump upgrade but when I got the pump it was so much heavier then the stock pump! It felt like four times as heavy! Why does the volumn matter over the cooler size or fan or air flow or sump size? bill

func412 · Post by **func412** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:38 pm

I just came home from the race and we climbed up to the 5th position. There were 15 teams altogether. The oil temps were between 65-90 C when we drove like maniacs, so the upgrade worked very nice. Outdoor temperature was from 14 to 20 C. In the normal drive the oil temps didn´t climb over the 50 C, so the thermostat is needed then.

And here are some pictures for you to taste. More pics coming soon.

http://www.partanen.net/gallery/thumbna ... ?album=224

EDIT: Some grammar.

vwbill · Post by **vwbill** » Sun May 20, 2007 6:20 pm

Thx!! Thx!! Thx!! Some great pics!!! Looks like a great time at the raceway!!! Thanks for the post of a 411/412 guys dream day!! Bill
p.s.What kinda speeds are we talking about??

func412 · Post by **func412** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:42 pm

Here´s some more http://picasaweb.google.fi/vwtyp2/Urtsi20071

That circuit is not very fast. That´s good, because we´re fast in corners. Top speed was about 160 km/h.

func412 · Post by **func412** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:48 pm

vwbill wrote:I was going to do the HD oil pump upgrade but when I got the pump it was so much heavier then the stock pump! It felt like four times as heavy! Why does the volumn matter over the cooler size or fan or air flow or sump size? bill

You must have had a steel bodied pump. Alloy pump is not that heavy.

Wally · Post by **Wally** » Mon May 21, 2007 12:44 am

Very cool pics!
and very well done with the 5th place!!!

copied two to be displayed here:

Doesn't this look better than a bug?

func412 · Post by **func412** » Mon May 21, 2007 9:37 am

Thanks.

Great pictures keeps on coming.

http://www.volkkaripalsta.com/tapahtuma ... index.html

Some drama included, because of the oil on the track.

ubercrap · Post by **ubercrap** » Mon May 21, 2007 1:14 pm

Simply awesome pics! So you are pretty fast in the corners compared to the Beetles, Type 3s, etc...?

vwbill · Post by **vwbill** » Mon May 21, 2007 8:10 pm

Some more great pics!!! I love the pic of you getting loose from the oil!
Do you guys have classes or weight types or engine size groups? What are you running? Looks like a really fun time!! Do you guys rent the track or is it a public day? Any movies coming?? What are the safety requirement?? THanks again for the great post!! So ho did the 412 handle?? Bill

func412 · Post by **func412** » Mon May 21, 2007 11:01 pm

Yes, we´re a bit faster in the corners than the beetles. I think it is a result of the big 4W disc brakes, the longer wheel base and the better suspension system.

vwbill wrote: Do you guys have classes or weight types or engine size groups? What are you running?

This 6 hour endurance is ment for the VW based cars which has a VW aircooled engine. The engine size is free as everything else in the car performance. We drive 1700 cc

Maybe 100 hp.

vwbill wrote: Do you guys rent the track or is it a public day?

Well, one team (Bogey Racing) is renting this track and arranges all practical things. All teams takes responsibility also, like flagging, cleaning etc.

vwbill wrote: Any movies coming??

Yes, I think so. Our team has some visual material also, but I haven´t got them yet.

vwbill wrote: What are the safety requirement??

This is more and more important issue, becase the cars have become faster every year. We have to have a roll gage, racing clothes, 6 point safety belts, helmets, and some more things, which are reguired in the Finnish road racing serie.

vwbill wrote: So ho did the 412 handle??

Good: car is in good balance, good brakes, engine reliability, easy to handle.

Must improve: Tail was loose, the steering is too slow, shifter is loose, too much weight, engine too low and lack of engine power... and some more little things.

jfe · Post by **jfe** » Mon May 21, 2007 11:51 pm

func412 wrote:
Must improve: Tail was loose, the steering is too slow, shifter is loose, too much weight, engine too low and lack of engine power... and some more little things.

yes, i think that, me too...

but i love drive my 411 on raceway.

Jani: good pics and good control !! thank oil.

For me, I installed my pump for EFI. this week, my fuel regulator must arrived. electricity still should be checked. And i will start engine with a Mégasquirt.

jeremy

func412 · Post by **func412** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:20 am

Jeremy, good to see your car improving. Make sure that the fuel connections and lines does handle the EFI fuel pressure. I don´t want to see your car on fire.

jfe · Post by **jfe** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:35 am

Yes Jani, a line is a special hight pressure. Before to drive with a carburator, with an original D-jet, i used this line @ 28psi.
Actually, I have checked @ 50psi (3.5kg) during 15 min.
i would used only @ 32psi.

i think so good...

me too, i not would to see to burn my car...

jeremy

jfe · Post by **jfe** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:44 am

fuel regulator inside ok

first start only @ 900rpm :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypn6cteqe1I

jeremy

func412 · Post by **func412** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:45 pm

Some video from "Rymstigers" website.

http://www.rymstigers.fi/kuvat/mov/urho07.mpg
http://www.rymstigers.fi/kuvat/mov/urho072.mpg