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converting baywindow to wide 5 question.......HELP!!

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:37 pm
by slammed73hightop
hi, newbie here, will a wide 5 backing plate from a split window bus bolt up to my 73 camper, or are the bolt patterns different? is there an easier way to convert the rear to wide 5??

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:22 pm
by slammed73hightop
anyone??

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:06 pm
by ecdez
Doubt if the split bus parts will work, but you may want to check parts from a '68-'72 (i think) as they are wide 5

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:33 pm
by slammed73hightop
DOH!.....yeah thanks dude.

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:40 pm
by sideshow
I'm certain that a split bus backing plate will not bolt up to bay trailing arm (reduction boxes verses IRS style).
Now a bay window wide five is common from 1968-1970 but I don't know how they differ from small five bays.

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:07 am
by melville
sideshow wrote:I'm certain that a split bus backing plate will not bolt up to bay trailing arm (reduction boxes verses IRS style).
Now a bay window wide five is common from 1968-1970 but I don't know how they differ from small five bays.
X2 on that, but worst case scenario is that he'd need to get the whole hub carrier to make it go.

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:39 pm
by slammed73hightop
anyone know if there are small 5 to 5x 114 adapters available? or are they to close to be able to be adapted?thanks for all your answers!

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:11 am
by TexasAirCooler
Your '73 is 5 x 112mm, the wide 5 is 5x205mm.

What are you going to use on the front?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:39 pm
by slammed73hightop
i dunno,i saw some rims that are 5x114 that i like, I'd like to use them on my bus, but dont know if there are adapters that can make that work? if not, then I'll try and convert my bus to wide5 and go that route.on the front i guess I'll hunt for a beam from a 68 to 72 and install that.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:59 am
by TexasAirCooler
I can't give you an answer on any adapters, I would think they are out there some where. You do know they will move your wheels out which may cause problems with fenders.

If you go with the wide 5...
For the front check the spindle length on a 68 - '70.
'64 - '79 use the same bearings.
For the rear they also use the same bearings, '64 - '79. You might be able to just swap out the backing plates and axle stub shafts, and drums.

For my 5 cents.... I'd find some wheels that fit the 5x112mm.

Re: converting baywindow to wide 5 question...

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:02 pm
by Jadewombat
slammed73hightop wrote:hi, newbie here, will a wide 5 backing plate from a split window bus bolt up to my 73 camper, or are the bolt patterns different? is there an easier way to convert the rear to wide 5??
I don't mean to be rude but why? There's a ton more options of Mercedes rims and 5x112mm pattern out there to choose from.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:33 pm
by slammed73hightop
not rude, yeah, I've just found a bunch of rims that would totally work, same bolt pattern! PHEW! for some reason i thought that the bay window bolt pattern was exclusive to bay windows and that they weren't made for anything else? lol, DOH!!

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:34 pm
by slammed73hightop
thanks for all the replies!

Re: converting baywindow to wide 5 question...

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:01 pm
by Piledriver
Jadewombat wrote:
slammed73hightop wrote:hi, newbie here, will a wide 5 backing plate from a split window bus bolt up to my 73 camper, or are the bolt patterns different? is there an easier way to convert the rear to wide 5??
I don't mean to be rude but why? There's a ton more options of Mercedes rims and 5x112mm pattern out there to choose from.
Audi too, just have to open the holes a tad.

Re: converting baywindow to wide 5 question...

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:05 am
by Jadewombat
Piledriver wrote:
Jadewombat wrote:
slammed73hightop wrote:hi, newbie here, will a wide 5 backing plate from a split window bus bolt up to my 73 camper, or are the bolt patterns different? is there an easier way to convert the rear to wide 5??
I don't mean to be rude but why? There's a ton more options of Mercedes rims and 5x112mm pattern out there to choose from.
Audi too, just have to open the holes a tad.
Yeah, what he said. Late VW too. Google Detroit rims GTI. Those would look sick on a bus, don't know if they would fit as they're so wide...still. A set of decent 5x112mm rims shouldn't be more than $500.

The studs changing over isn't too big a deal, go here:

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