480whp 65' Bug k20 turbo, New BOR 67 incar video!!!!
- WickedWagens
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
Any updates? How has everything been working out? Ever get it to a track?
1968 Karmann Ghia land speed
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
Well, as an update........
As of right now the car is just a rolling shell, no motor or tranny.
Why:
Only time I ever had it to the track was BOR 65 last may, were the carnage occurred. What I learned about the setup that day........The tranny gearing wasn't playing nice with such a high rpm powerband motor. Now don't get me wrong about this, the car ran great and was very fast.......but just could not get out of the hole. Because of the high gearing and high powerband I started getting more aggressive on the starts.....so that I could leave under power, causing the destruction.
Car had a best that day of 11.6 at 123mph.
Here is the video from that day.....
To give you an idea of how tall the tranny was geared............ I never even got out of 3rd gear (3rd maxes out at just about 130mph, 4th would have been 190mph)
As of right now the car is just a rolling shell, no motor or tranny.
Why:
Only time I ever had it to the track was BOR 65 last may, were the carnage occurred. What I learned about the setup that day........The tranny gearing wasn't playing nice with such a high rpm powerband motor. Now don't get me wrong about this, the car ran great and was very fast.......but just could not get out of the hole. Because of the high gearing and high powerband I started getting more aggressive on the starts.....so that I could leave under power, causing the destruction.
Car had a best that day of 11.6 at 123mph.
Here is the video from that day.....
To give you an idea of how tall the tranny was geared............ I never even got out of 3rd gear (3rd maxes out at just about 130mph, 4th would have been 190mph)
My Turbo Build>> http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 9&t=122882
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
- roachghia70
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
I was going to say that you should hang that beautiful powdercoated transmission case on the wall...
But if you did that with all the crap you break, you'd have to buy a second house. Because the first one would be filled floor to ceiling with broken Bug parts.
Glad it's coming back together already. Post pics of the progress when you get a chance.
But if you did that with all the crap you break, you'd have to buy a second house. Because the first one would be filled floor to ceiling with broken Bug parts.
Glad it's coming back together already. Post pics of the progress when you get a chance.
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
I can do thatroachghia70 wrote:I was going to say that you should hang that beautiful powdercoated transmission case on the wall...
But if you did that with all the crap you break, you'd have to buy a second house. Because the first one would be filled floor to ceiling with broken Bug parts.
Glad it's coming back together already. Post pics of the progress when you get a chance.
So what I am doing is converting to a Bus Box 002 5-rib, with a LanD billet conversion intermediate housing.
Re-using all the Weddle gears that were in the T1 box, but also using the stock Bus 4.86 R/P.
Sold my Quaife and got a 091 Peloquin diff.
So the intermediate housing is fully assembled, just need to adjust the shift rods. And I need to clearance the inside of the Bus case a little more to clear the 1/2 shift fork.
My Turbo Build>> http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 9&t=122882
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
Aside from the tranny itself I am also going to convert to a Hydraulic clutch w/ clutch management to help keep the gears in 1 piece.
As for the motor, i am adding a set of Supertech valve springs and titanium retainers, and am also going to change the fuel pump out for twin Bosch 044 pumps and retune on E85. On E85 the motor should safely produce 450-500whp, which will be damn near maxing out the 1000cc fuel injectors. Obviously 500whp on a "stock" 2.0 engine is pushing the limitations of what it can handle, but this is something that has been done many times already.
650whp:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.ph ... tock-k20a2
738whp:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.ph ... lock-K20a2
560whp:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.ph ... tock-motor
605whp:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.ph ... 1-swap-35r
You all get the idea....
As for the motor, i am adding a set of Supertech valve springs and titanium retainers, and am also going to change the fuel pump out for twin Bosch 044 pumps and retune on E85. On E85 the motor should safely produce 450-500whp, which will be damn near maxing out the 1000cc fuel injectors. Obviously 500whp on a "stock" 2.0 engine is pushing the limitations of what it can handle, but this is something that has been done many times already.
650whp:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.ph ... tock-k20a2
738whp:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.ph ... lock-K20a2
560whp:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.ph ... tock-motor
605whp:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.ph ... 1-swap-35r
You all get the idea....
My Turbo Build>> http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 9&t=122882
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
- roachdogg28
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
I was watchin as you snapped ur case in half, and saw the trail of tranny fluid as you came to a rolling top. I was feeling for you, but seems you solved the problem with a fat 002, what kind of gearing is going in it now? Hopefully no longer 130mph in third.
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
Hey man love this thing its crazy. . Small. ? what are u doing for axels I can't keep axels on my vr6 I want to go 944 cv but I can just go u joint to what should I do? ?????????
- fastback
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
sick project!
what's your gear ratios and do you have som pic's of your reverse system with the tall 2. gear?
thx
what's your gear ratios and do you have som pic's of your reverse system with the tall 2. gear?
thx
- supaninja
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
Sweet build dude, I was thinking about a boosted k20z3 in my notch but I just don't have heart to cut it up to squeeze a radiator in it. My civic (06 fg2) made over 370 whp with a log mani/gt28/ethanol, those motors are friggin awesome.
'65 notch w/ a squirted type 4
http://supaninjanick.wordpress.com/
'68 "Zombie Response Vehicle" Westy
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
I am running German T2 inner and outer joints. Never had a problem with them. Using stock Thing output flanges and 924 stubs on stock T1 axles. Gonna have to change axles now obviously but everything else will be the same.mud slinger wrote:Hey man love this thing its crazy. . Small. ? what are u doing for axels I can't keep axels on my vr6 I want to go 944 cv but I can just go u joint to what should I do? ?????????
My Turbo Build>> http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 9&t=122882
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
Sorry, I already have the gear carrier together. But it is using the late model stamped steel reverse arm with the little pin and fine splined slider with the outer diameter turned down per Weddle.fastback wrote:sick project!
what's your gear ratios and do you have som pic's of your reverse system with the tall 2. gear?
thx
The ratios are 3.33,1.93,1.26,.89 w/ 4.86 R/P.
My Turbo Build>> http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 9&t=122882
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
- fastback
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
thx for sharing !
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
fastback wrote:sick project!
what's your gear ratios and do you have som pic's of your reverse system with the tall 2. gear?
thx
I had to pull the tranny back apart before putting it back in the car so I took a picture of reverse gear for you.
My Turbo Build>> http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 9&t=122882
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
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Re: 65' Bug k20 GT4088R turbo, DYNO UPDATE!!
My Turbo Build>> http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 9&t=122882
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
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Re: 65' Bug k20 turbo, E85 DYNO UPDATE!! 480whp
E85 tune. 18psi
My Turbo Build>> http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 9&t=122882
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication