1303 subaru 4x4
- F4P
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1303 subaru 4x4
hello every body
my little project
vw 1303 1973
engine Subaru ej20 twin turbo
gearbox Subaru wrx with all the transmission to make a 4 wheel drive :p
pic's
the car after 2 years off daily driver.
first gearbox fitting :
and now cutting the chassis
little 3d for the front coil over
here the steel part for the news hybride drive shaft i'ts a mix of rear wrx shaft and front STI hub...
future new parts 28mm diameter
pic's of the week end :
now i'm waiting for rear coilover and i need to finalize 3d for the front arms and coilover setup
my little project
vw 1303 1973
engine Subaru ej20 twin turbo
gearbox Subaru wrx with all the transmission to make a 4 wheel drive :p
pic's
the car after 2 years off daily driver.
first gearbox fitting :
and now cutting the chassis
little 3d for the front coil over
here the steel part for the news hybride drive shaft i'ts a mix of rear wrx shaft and front STI hub...
future new parts 28mm diameter
pic's of the week end :
now i'm waiting for rear coilover and i need to finalize 3d for the front arms and coilover setup
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- roachghia70
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
Holy crap! This is an awesome project. Great work so far, man. I can't wait to see how this one pans out. It's cool to see you building the parts in CAD.
It's kinda funny, when I saw the thread title I thought that it was this car, which I've seen for sale in the Samba classifieds:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... id=1017938
Glad to see it's not!
It's kinda funny, when I saw the thread title I thought that it was this car, which I've seen for sale in the Samba classifieds:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... id=1017938
Glad to see it's not!
- ttriebler
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
Copycat!!
I had to do it with a balljoint front end which was quite difficult, requiring machining of the Subaru front hubs to suit the VW front trailing arm suspension.
I placed the motor and transmission more forward to keep the motor underneath the Manx body - so I had to cut the torsion bar for the 4WD box and run coilover rear suspension.
Good luck with your project - I will be happy to see it finished!!
www.subarugears.com - for reversed subaru gearboxes
I had to do it with a balljoint front end which was quite difficult, requiring machining of the Subaru front hubs to suit the VW front trailing arm suspension.
I placed the motor and transmission more forward to keep the motor underneath the Manx body - so I had to cut the torsion bar for the 4WD box and run coilover rear suspension.
Good luck with your project - I will be happy to see it finished!!
www.subarugears.com - for reversed subaru gearboxes
- F4P
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
yes i have to buy your kitGood luck with your project - I will be happy to see it finished!!
www.subarugears.com - for reversed subaru gearboxes
it's not really a copy. i saw your thread after cutting my chassis but your thread confirm my choice so it's cool
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
How are you going to support the motor now that your frame horns have been shortened?
My Turbo Build>> http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 9&t=122882
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
480whp/300wtq>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RvkpiTmr4
Special Thanks to 55superbeetle, Jeff @ 40Thirteen fabrication
- perrib
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
Awesum work. Did you use the reverse rotation Ring and Pinion?
- F4P
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
hello for the motor support i have to make support with the rolllcage
and yes i have to use the reverse kit for the gearbox
pics of the weeks :
i have to cut here for the driveshaft
and yes i have to use the reverse kit for the gearbox
pics of the weeks :
i have to cut here for the driveshaft
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- yodogg
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
This looks fantastic! If you wanted to stay air-cooled (I can be stubborn that way), is there an adapter for a vw/porsche engine into a subaru gearbox? Will you be rallying this or will it be more for recreation?
Keep the pictures coming!
Keep the pictures coming!
- ttriebler
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
Yes there is !!!yodogg wrote:This looks fantastic! If you wanted to stay air-cooled (I can be stubborn that way), is there an adapter for a vw/porsche engine into a subaru gearbox? Will you be rallying this or will it be more for recreation?
I am currently prototyping the conversion adaptor and matched flywheel. This will allow any Type 1, 4 or Wasserboxer to bolt to the Subaru transmission. I suppose that also includes all Porsche flat 4 & 6 engines too!
Here's the first mockup :
I expect it to be finished and ready for sale in a couple of weeks once I have finished the banana mount and final shape for the bottom of the adaptor to suit.
- yodogg
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
I do believe I'm feeling a bit giddy! You'll have to post when you've had a chance to test it.
- Jadewombat
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
How do you get the axle length correct for front and rear, have them resplined or custom made?
- F4P
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
i just test the subaru axle and it worksJadewombat wrote:How do you get the axle length correct for front and rear, have them resplined or custom made?
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- Jadewombat
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
Really? The subaru trans and axle justs stops where it's supposed to and still fits flush in the trailing arm OK? Just seems like too much of a coincidence to me.F4P wrote:
i just test the subaru axle and it works
Likewise, how do you fit the front struts and get the camber right with where the axle ends at the spindle? There's so little tolerance to the angle of the strut top mount with respect to camber I've found. I mean are you working backwards fitting the front axles to the spindle then figuring where the trailing arm will need to be mounted on the car?
Great work, BTW.
- petew
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
looks really good. I reckon this might be the first of many such conversions. you will need to watch weight distribution though. I also be interested to see what you do with the centre diff. is there any way to make sure it puts most of the bias towards the engine end, coz in an impreza it does the opposite from what I understand.
- F4P
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Re: 1303 subaru 4x4
Jadewombat wrote:Really? The subaru trans and axle justs stops where it's supposed to and still fits flush in the trailing arm OK? Just seems like too much of a coincidence to me.F4P wrote:
i just test the subaru axle and it works
Likewise, how do you fit the front struts and get the camber right with where the axle ends at the spindle? There's so little tolerance to the angle of the strut top mount with respect to camber I've found. I mean are you working backwards fitting the front axles to the spindle then figuring where the trailing arm will need to be mounted on the car?
Great work, BTW.
hello for the front struts it's a custom coil over made with bilstein insert struts i use front STI hub with custom axle for the shaft
don't worry about the camber all front was simulated in cad appz and i have F4P camber plate for the top and custom a-arms
the front diff was flipped upside downlooks really good. I reckon this might be the first of many such conversions. you will need to watch weight distribution though. I also be interested to see what you do with the centre diff. is there any way to make sure it puts most of the bias towards the engine end, coz in an impreza it does the opposite from what I understand.
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