Tim's Green Bug...
- TimS
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If you want a true timeline of me getting used to it with real time reviews as I out miles on it, Watch Elko videos. Else, I will have to type when I am on keyboard.
It took me roughly 800 spirited off road miles to begin to trust it.
It took me roughly 800 spirited off road miles to begin to trust it.
Don’t ever yield your gift of dream; Your knack for gumption, too. For “It’s the crazy ones that have all the fun," if dreamers yearn to do.
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Thank you. I have skimmed the videos but haven't had time to sit and take in the details.
I am patient and will wait for you to get to a keyboard
I am patient and will wait for you to get to a keyboard
Steve
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I redid my cooking kit while camp cooking was fresh in my mind. I call it my "Coffee and Carb Kit". Water, Stove, fuel, coffee and freeze dried meals included. Brianna and I tested it out the other day on a freeze dried desert. All works as planned.
It now takes up about half the size of the original, but serves the same functions...
I also purchased a new length of rope. Not the chincy hardware store rope, but a true 1/2" static line. This should be good for many things yet to be discovered. It will live in my "bag of tricks" (The "bag of tricks" actually has a physical location in the bug that is unseen to anyone but myself). Hopefully I don't need any of them.
More rope...
I also added a smaller lifting strap as an interface to the bumper for my recovery strap... Until I can get some better tow hooks, that is.
So the bug is cleaned up and ready to skip town. I have a good 36 hours of supplies on board but a quick stop at the grocery or pantry and we would be living off grid.
Notice how you can still see out the back? This is, again, everything needed for camping except personal and wearable clothes. My Daughter and I each have identical helmet bags that will serve the purpose of housing laundry stuffs.
Yeah, and here is my body disintegrating slowly. I will have to fix this.
It now takes up about half the size of the original, but serves the same functions...
I also purchased a new length of rope. Not the chincy hardware store rope, but a true 1/2" static line. This should be good for many things yet to be discovered. It will live in my "bag of tricks" (The "bag of tricks" actually has a physical location in the bug that is unseen to anyone but myself). Hopefully I don't need any of them.
More rope...
I also added a smaller lifting strap as an interface to the bumper for my recovery strap... Until I can get some better tow hooks, that is.
So the bug is cleaned up and ready to skip town. I have a good 36 hours of supplies on board but a quick stop at the grocery or pantry and we would be living off grid.
Notice how you can still see out the back? This is, again, everything needed for camping except personal and wearable clothes. My Daughter and I each have identical helmet bags that will serve the purpose of housing laundry stuffs.
Yeah, and here is my body disintegrating slowly. I will have to fix this.
Don’t ever yield your gift of dream; Your knack for gumption, too. For “It’s the crazy ones that have all the fun," if dreamers yearn to do.
- TimS
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Forgot to mention, that is camping supplies for two closely acquainted people. Add a second tent if needed.
Don’t ever yield your gift of dream; Your knack for gumption, too. For “It’s the crazy ones that have all the fun," if dreamers yearn to do.
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Good times for sure!
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Well, I had to dive into my bag of tricks tonight.
Decided at 7pm to go have a campfire with my Daughter. Got 300 yards and realized the headlights didn't work. Found a plug that must have gotten tugged with installing chairs into the bug or removing chairs from the bug. Another thing I need, one of those wire separators.
Then we get going on the trail, pass about 15 hunters coming out of the woods, and start smelling antifreeze. Yeaup, gauge says hot. My fans were not turning on for some reason. Checked the likely suspects, but then just bypassed from the alternator directly to the fans for the ride home.
Enjoyed a fire, coffee, hot chocolate and roasted marshmellows. We brought three logs to split on site, and played the hobo life for another wonderful evening.
That is all. I love what my bug has become. A lot of work to get here, though.
Decided at 7pm to go have a campfire with my Daughter. Got 300 yards and realized the headlights didn't work. Found a plug that must have gotten tugged with installing chairs into the bug or removing chairs from the bug. Another thing I need, one of those wire separators.
Then we get going on the trail, pass about 15 hunters coming out of the woods, and start smelling antifreeze. Yeaup, gauge says hot. My fans were not turning on for some reason. Checked the likely suspects, but then just bypassed from the alternator directly to the fans for the ride home.
Enjoyed a fire, coffee, hot chocolate and roasted marshmellows. We brought three logs to split on site, and played the hobo life for another wonderful evening.
That is all. I love what my bug has become. A lot of work to get here, though.
Don’t ever yield your gift of dream; Your knack for gumption, too. For “It’s the crazy ones that have all the fun," if dreamers yearn to do.
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Well thought out and packed Mr Tim. Do you ratchet strap your spare tire to the roll cage or have a bolt in setup? (looks strapped). I need to do it that way, on the roof is too much up top weight.
Steve
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- TimS
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My fan fuse blew last night... not sure why. It looked like the fuse had been warm for a while. I'm thininking of splitting the fans to have the small one on with the ignition and the big one controlled by the computer. Unless I move the radiator up. Which may happen.
We've talked about this before, Steve. It is strapped. I may have an external tire mount option pending. Not sure.
We've talked about this before, Steve. It is strapped. I may have an external tire mount option pending. Not sure.
Don’t ever yield your gift of dream; Your knack for gumption, too. For “It’s the crazy ones that have all the fun," if dreamers yearn to do.
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Tim I was have problems with my fans fuse and I ran separate fuses and relays, one for each fan and then added a toggle switch to ground the relays if it is getting warm or if I have the AC on so I can turn them on or just let the computer do it.
Ed
Ed
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I found my multimeter, finally. I need to check the wiring in the fans.
So I have two fans, each with two 12v inputs and one ground. Either of the inputs will power each fan, and 12v to both inputs will make the fan go faster. I have it hooked up to run both fans off the same relay and I only power one input of each fan. I have the other circuit of the fans tied together and ending at a now-unused relay.
Now comes the riddle for the riddling type... When the relay is off and I spin one fan, the other one spins in the same direction (generating power that is dissipated through the other fan). The question is why does it produce voltage and is it dragging the fans down?
So I have two fans, each with two 12v inputs and one ground. Either of the inputs will power each fan, and 12v to both inputs will make the fan go faster. I have it hooked up to run both fans off the same relay and I only power one input of each fan. I have the other circuit of the fans tied together and ending at a now-unused relay.
Now comes the riddle for the riddling type... When the relay is off and I spin one fan, the other one spins in the same direction (generating power that is dissipated through the other fan). The question is why does it produce voltage and is it dragging the fans down?
Don’t ever yield your gift of dream; Your knack for gumption, too. For “It’s the crazy ones that have all the fun," if dreamers yearn to do.
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Didn't your fan fuse blow on the EIA?
How big is the fuse and what do your fans draw? Your fans run an awful lot, you could definitely benefit from a different radiator placement with less relying on the fans.
Most electric motors will produce voltage when spun manually, some more than others. When you think about it, a generator and a motor are pretty similar in design. No, it is not dragging the fans down. Some factory fans are setup the same way with no ill effects.
How big is the fuse and what do your fans draw? Your fans run an awful lot, you could definitely benefit from a different radiator placement with less relying on the fans.
Most electric motors will produce voltage when spun manually, some more than others. When you think about it, a generator and a motor are pretty similar in design. No, it is not dragging the fans down. Some factory fans are setup the same way with no ill effects.
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Okay. Thanks. I have a plan to get some natural airflow to cool. Or split the fans into two circuits or both.
7.5 amps each circuit of each fan means I am typically running 15 amps. Fuse is a 20.
7.5 amps each circuit of each fan means I am typically running 15 amps. Fuse is a 20.
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When I put the Toyota in my yellow buggy I wired the fan to be on ant time the motor was running. When I would turn off the key it would keep running until the fan stoppd turning, it was making enough voltage to keep it running. I added a diode to fix that.
Ed
Ed
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TimS wrote:Okay. Thanks. I have a plan to get some natural airflow to cool. Or split the fans into two circuits or both.
7.5 amps each circuit of each fan means I am typically running 15 amps. Fuse is a 20.
I would normally size the wiring and fuse that circuit for 25 amps for a little extra margin.
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That's pretty funny Ed, how long did it take you to digure out?no1clyde wrote:When I put the Toyota in my yellow buggy I wired the fan to be on ant time the motor was running. When I would turn off the key it would keep running until the fan stoppd turning, it was making enough voltage to keep it running. I added a diode to fix that.
Ed
My wife's beater car uses a cigarette lighter that is hot with the key on and right after we got it she was using a power inverter and it would keep the accessories on for 10-15 seconds after the key was turned off if the inverter was on.