1600 turbo build thread

With Turbo and Super charging you can create massive horsepower with vw motors.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by Chip Birks » Mon May 21, 2018 2:49 pm

Probably. Then work towards getting a water/meth kit.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by buguy » Mon May 21, 2018 3:49 pm

Yeah I've been debating with myself if blowing through this carb with meth would be the same as just staying drawthrough.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by Chip Birks » Mon May 21, 2018 4:28 pm

Maybe if you just used water. Methanol adds octane and will help with detonation.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by buguy » Mon May 21, 2018 5:05 pm

Yeah that's true. I was only considering the cooling affect.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by madmike » Tue May 22, 2018 5:41 am

Don't use 'CAST' pistons :shock: find some 'Forged' :wink:

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by Chip Birks » Tue May 22, 2018 7:27 am

Pretty sure they are all cast, unless you pay for forged, and forged don't come from Mahle. And nobody does a true forged off the shelf 85.5. I know where you can order a set from through...

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by buguy » Tue May 22, 2018 7:50 am

I think I'm going to stick with cast for now. When I do a real build I will use forged.
But this is exactly why I didn't want to build something first. I want to get more familiar with turbos and turning on this cheap motor. I paid $150 for this one so if I destroy it I'm not out too much.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by Chip Birks » Tue May 22, 2018 8:14 am

People are getting great results from standard cast pistons. Rodney Adams at RAD made well over 200 at the wheels with them. Keep the tune safe.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by buguy » Tue May 22, 2018 2:13 pm

Yeah the tune is the key for sure. I've been trying to inch it from rich to lean.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by buguy » Tue May 22, 2018 6:19 pm

Confidence was high going into welding up that intake. Didn't go well though. It didn't seem to want to put a puddle on the 3/8" stuff. It was working well on the thin metal though. Had to break out the mig and it worked better, but not great. I don't know if it was crap steel or what?? Anyway I got it welded up. Now I just have to pick up some 1.5" for the cross tube and weld it to that.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by buguy » Tue May 22, 2018 6:19 pm

Confidence was high going into welding up that intake. Didn't go well though. It didn't seem to want to put a puddle on the 3/8" stuff. It was working well on the thin metal though. Had to break out the mig and it worked better, but not great. I don't know if it was crap steel or what?? Anyway I got it welded up. Now I just have to pick up some 1.5" for the cross tube and weld it to that.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by theKbStockpiler » Tue May 22, 2018 9:56 pm

You're going to have to preheat the flange because it has a lot more mass compared to the funnel. If you use enough heat to pool on the flange ,just the arc rays themselves will burn through the sheet metal.
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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by buguy » Tue May 22, 2018 11:29 pm

Yeah that might have helped. But it was really strange the way it acted. I don't remember having that trouble when I made the 4 barrel flange and it was made out of the same piece of 3/8" plate.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by petew » Wed May 23, 2018 8:04 am

I'm using stock mahle 85.5s. No dramas.

And yes, welding thin pipe to flange is hard. Get the MIG wire on to the flange first, then draw circles onto the tube and back onto the flange. Don't spend too much time on the pipe.

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Re: 1600 turbo build thread

Post by buguy » Wed May 23, 2018 8:32 am

Yeah it looks like Mahle sets are about $40 more than the Mexican sets. I think at $189 it's worth the extra cost.
And I really didn't have too much trouble with the mig, but trying to tig it kicked my ass. I had it set at 50 amps and that was clearly not enough. This was only my second try with a tig, but I was able to do it when I welded the turbo flange on. Maybe I had it set higher. It also was all brand new metal.
I think I will get them from AC.net https://vwparts.aircooled.net/Mahle-Pis ... 069fma.htm
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