Safari Turbo/Megasquirt Fuel Injection Project

With Turbo and Super charging you can create massive horsepower with vw motors.
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... I can hear the wallets screaming in fear already.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Piledriver wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:47 pm ... I can hear the wallets screaming in fear already.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)
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petew wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:27 pm
Clonebug wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:54 pmWhen you blow up a stroker you are done....if you blow up a stocker...you sniffle a bit and get another cheap used engine.
Pay attention to your tune and you won't blow it up.
Yeah, but that's not going to last forever. Even over here where they sold HEAPs of VW, good stock motors are starting to be hard to come by. In most cases you need to rebuild them and that's not a cheap proposition these days. Mine cost me $3.5k for an almost stock rebuild.
Sounds to me like its time to buy a few tools and a couple books and learn how to save yourself a few bucks.
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Chip Birks wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:32 pm Sounds to me like its time to buy a few tools and a couple books and learn how to save yourself a few bucks.
You'd think so right? But most of the cost was machining. He only charged me $800 to assemble it. Can't see myself buying an align bore and milling machine anytime soon. :(
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turboedbug wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:36 pm Since talking about losing a stroker motor vs a stocker. I kinda like the subaru thing. But hey thats just me. Already fuel injected, comes with a turbo. So if i blow my current setup i could go out and spend less than rebuilding. Now dont get me wrong on sounding like i am hating on acvw. I am just a cheap azz that found the pros and cons worth the swap. I snagged my motor and trans for just under 700$. Now thats not usually common at that price.
Totally. I've already had an NA subaru in a VW and loved it. If my car wasn't so straight and original it would have got an EJ. Heck, even an EJ22 with a turbo would be pretty grouse.
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petew wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:54 pm
Chip Birks wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:32 pm Sounds to me like its time to buy a few tools and a couple books and learn how to save yourself a few bucks.
You'd think so right? But most of the cost was machining. He only charged me $800 to assemble it. Can't see myself buying an align bore and milling machine anytime soon. :(
Dang! I think I'm into my machine work around $300-400. That's just the case itself, but, includes stroker clearance, shuffle pin on center web, and bore/deck.
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That has to be a tough call when you can buy a new case ready to go for $900 at CB.
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Took me a' few years' to gather parts for my 2276. ,,it wasn't that much , if u drag it out :wink: :lol: ,, but if ur in a hurry,, it's gonna cost, biggest cost is the Heads ,ya got to have good heads :lol:
$400 Crank With Carrillo Rods, used
$100 wedgemate flywheel,Labor, had in stock
$500 044 heads 42x37.5 new a few years ago
$50 open case for 94mm $12.50 a hole,I clearance my own cases for cranks, had this in stock
$75 cam ,new
$75 straight cut gears,new
$60 lifters,new
$50 push rods,new
$60 J.C. push rod tubes, used
$100 berg sump and I full flow my own cases
$60 26mm pump,new
$300 Pistons & jugs new
$400 coated Header
$200 Carb & Intake used
$125 T3/T4 E-bay ,new
$2395.oo give or take a lie or two :lol: I think I bought one part each month :wink: ,, sometimes nothing for months :cry: we have a large VW swap meet only ONCE a year
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I’m talking about someone that is trying to get 200 hp out of a 2276-2332 and has it built.
Match porting heads and intakes, big 48 idf carbs rebuilt by Blackline Racing, extractor exhaust, balancing the entire works to spin it to 7500 rpm.
You are turbo so you don’t care if it only puts out 120-140 hp N/A.
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.
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Yeah I see plenty of guys building 2275-2332 that are making sub 200hp NA on the dyno. And they are high strung and surely not great for the street.
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Turbo - the great equalizer! F1 used to get 1000hp from 1.6L, just kept adding boost! (well, plus a few other tricks...) You still have a ways to go CB! :)
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Just need 75 lbs boost and 18,000 rpm.....😎
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.
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You'll get there!
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GS guy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:17 pm Turbo - the great equalizer! F1 used to get 1000hp from 1.6L, just kept adding boost! (well, plus a few other tricks...) You still have a ways to go CB! :)
IIRC it was more like 1 hp/cc in qualifying trim. (1500 hp/1.5L)

Almost top fuel level, per cc, and not for just a few seconds per rebuild. Usually.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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I'll give a dollar to the first guy on this forum who welds his barrels into his heads. :D
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