250HP 1600dp

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Clonebug » Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:44 am

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So at at 102 cu I am out.........
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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by ToRy 70 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:13 am

Clonebug wrote:
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So at at 102 cu I am out.........
I think 1641 should count.

1641 cubic centimeters =

100.14 cubic inches



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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by buguy » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:51 am

He is 1679 I believe. 102.45ci

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Wally » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:06 am

So what would you call 1200 cc’s then? :-)

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by buguy » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:34 pm

Mini mouse!

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Wally » Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:25 am

or just plain 'crazy' LOL!

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Kalle » Mon May 14, 2018 4:30 am

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Hi Mario,

How is it going with your mouse engine?

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by MarioVelotta » Mon May 14, 2018 10:38 am

Kalle wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 4:30 am
MarioVelotta wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:53 pm
2018 will be the year my Mouse gets put together!
Hi Mario,

How is it going with your mouse engine?

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Well, I kinda got sidetracked with a supercharger on my stock 1600. I seemed like a good idea since everyone else has one :lol:
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Since then I've pulled the motor to have my transmission serviced. It's back I just have not reinstalled it. Once I do that I can get some SC dyno numbers, I'm really interested in the torque as it's making 9psi at 2000rpms. It's like driving a small 2L :D

After I get the dyno numbers I can finish assembly of my turbo 1600. I needed to have the case re-machined as 3 of the bearings were too tight and make a final decision on the cam to use with my Los Panchitos.

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I've got a good assortment of cams to choose from but I' think it needs to be pretty aggressive to keep up with the custom cam Chip got from Paradise.
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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Chip Birks » Mon May 14, 2018 1:28 pm

MarioVelotta wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 10:38 am
Kalle wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 4:30 am
MarioVelotta wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:53 pm
2018 will be the year my Mouse gets put together!
Hi Mario,

How is it going with your mouse engine?

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I've got a good assortment of cams to choose from but I' think it needs to be pretty aggressive to keep up with the custom cam Chip got from Paradise.
Bahahaha! You've got much better heads and are much better behind the laptop than me! I don't think my little VWP cam is gonna make all the difference! E85 might help me though, just a little.

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Kalle » Tue May 15, 2018 8:28 am

Perhaps not useful info at all but I ran a very mild cam on my 1641ccm engine. Basically a W110 on 112 lobes by JPM which again allowed me to use 1.5 rockers. Not a lot of lift even with the 1.5`s. Changed the CB650 springs every second year/season even though I was not forced to since they did not loose a lot of tension.

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by buguy » Tue May 15, 2018 11:21 am

Do you have any numbers or timeslips with that engine?

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Wally » Tue May 15, 2018 11:38 am

buguy wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 11:21 am
Do you have any numbers or timeslips with that engine?
I think all data and info are further back in this thread. Kalle shared everything afair :wink:
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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Chip Birks » Tue May 15, 2018 12:52 pm

Kalle wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 8:28 am
Perhaps not useful info at all but I ran a very mild cam on my 1641ccm engine. Basically a W110 on 112 lobes by JPM which again allowed me to use 1.5 rockers. Not a lot of lift even with the 1.5`s. Changed the CB650 springs every second year/season even though I was not forced to since they did not loose a lot of tension.

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Thats crazy! Mine isn't crazy wild, definitely bigger than a w110 though! Just goes to show, an efficient turbo and good fuel make all the difference.

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Kalle » Wed May 16, 2018 1:08 am

buguy wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 11:21 am
Do you have any numbers or timeslips with that engine?
Hi buguy,

Here you go:

- 1641ccm
- Mahle barrels and pistons.
- Scat 5.5 rods with Scat 625 rod bolts.
- Home ported CB044 heads with 650 springs.
- DPR 69mm crank.
- JPM version of a W110 cam.
- JPM Alu pushrods.
- Precision 5862 turbo with a T4 flange AR58.
- Custom exhaust and intake system using a PWR water to air intercooler and manifolds from vwspeedshop UK.
- E85 with a Aeromotive Eliminator in-tank fuel pump.

375 whp at 26psi and a fair bit above 400whp at 35 psi and 10.41/137mph in a heavy 67 but more importantly: really reliable with minimum maintenance and PLENTY of fun! Fully streetable and only minor issue was to get high enough oil temperature. It looks like this:

And Chip, I agree! Feel free to use a high lift and aggresive cam but you will have to leave with that choice afterwards and adapt to it with frequent valve spring checks and higher spring pressure - more wear and tear.

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by buguy » Wed May 16, 2018 5:32 am

Damn!

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