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Re: T4 1971cc Megasquirt turbo - Budget with a lot of torque

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:50 am
by MegaRookie
Hi Udo,

Sad to hear that your starter wasnt strong enough. On my beetle (also 2 l type 4) I used one of a golf. I cant remember the year but it has the following numbers:

Bosch nr 001121006
Vw nr 020911023f

Those are good available on the Dutch scrapjards for approx 25-30 euro's. The only mod you need to do is to (weld and) redrill the holes.

Good luck!

Best regards Mark

Ps. This is what it looks like after the mod.

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Re: T4 1971cc Megasquirt turbo - Budget with a lot of torque

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:38 am
by Udo Airbus
Ha Hoppus Aka Mark from KS !

I was already seaching for your post @ keversite.. lol !
But anyway, cool thanks for the info!

It think it comes from a golf 4 automatic:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-GOLF-SE-MK4- ... 0510485065


My brother in law got some TDI starters, So I will have a look in his garage next wednesday.
(not Ome Sander, but another one, the watercooled diesel man :mrgreen: )

Re: T4 1971cc Megasquirt turbo - Budget with a lot of torque

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:52 am
by Udo Airbus
Oke they fit (except redrill holes) from:

part no:
020911023F
020 911 023 F

Bosch nr 001121006

WIll fit from models below:

Volkswagen Golf ('97-'04)
•1.4-16V (55 kw / 75 pk)
•1.6 (74 kw / 101 pk)
•1.8-5V (92 kw / 125 pk)
•2.3 V5 (110 kw / 150 pk)
•1.8-5V Turbo GTI (110 kw / 150 pk)
•1.9 SDI (50 kw / 68 pk)
•1.9 TDI (66 kw / 90 pk)
•1.8-5V 4Motion (92 kw / 125 pk)
•2.0 (85 kw / 116 pk)
•1.9 TDI 4Motion (66 kw / 90 pk)
•2.8 V6 4Motion (150 kw / 204 pk)
•1.6-16V (77 kw / 105 pk)
•1.9 TDI 4Motion (85 kw / 116 pk)
•1.8-20V GTI (154 kw / 209 pk)
•3.2 V6 R32 (177 kw / 241 pk)
•1.6-16V FSI (81 kw / 110 pk)

Audi A3 ('96-'03)
•1.6 (74 kw / 101 pk)
•1.8 5V (92 kw / 125 pk)
•1.8 5V Turbo (110 kw / 150 pk)
•1.9 TDI (66 kw / 90 pk)
•1.8 5V Turbo quattro (110 kw / 150 pk)
•1.8 5V T S3 Ambition (154 kw / 209 pk)
•1.9 TDI quattro (96 kw / 131 pk)
•1.8 5V T S3 Ambition (165 kw / 224 pk)

Seat Altea ('04-'15)
•1.6 (75 kw / 102 pk)
•2.0 FSI (110 kw / 150 pk)
•1.9 TDI (77 kw / 105 pk)
•2.0 TDI (103 kw / 140 pk)
•2.0 TDI (125 kw / 170 pk)
•2.0 TFSI (147 kw / 200 pk)
•1.4 (63 kw / 86 pk)
•1.8 TFSI (118 kw / 160 pk)
•1.4 TSI (92 kw / 125 pk)
•2.0 TSI (155 kw / 211 pk)
•1.6 TDI (77 kw / 105 pk)
•1.2 TSI (77 kw / 105 pk)

Seat Leon ('00-'05)
•1.4-16V (55 kw / 75 pk)
•1.6 (74 kw / 101 pk)
•1.8-20V (92 kw / 125 pk)
•1.8-20VT (132 kw / 179 pk)
•1.9 SDI (50 kw / 68 pk)
•1.9 TDI (66 kw / 90 pk)
•1.9 TDI (81 kw / 110 pk)
•2.8 V6 (150 kw / 204 pk)
•1.8-20VT Sport 4 (132 kw / 179 pk)
•1.8-20V Cupra R (154 kw / 209 pk)

Skoda Octavia ('97-'04)
•1.6 (55 kw / 75 pk)
•1.8 (92 kw / 125 pk)
•1.9 SDI (50 kw / 68 pk)
•1.9 TDI (66 kw / 90 pk)
•1.8 T (110 kw / 150 pk)
•2.0 (85 kw / 116 pk)
•1.4 (55 kw / 75 pk)
•1.6 (75 kw / 102 pk)

Re: T4 1971cc Megasquirt turbo - Budget with a lot of torque

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:06 pm
by MegaRookie
Jep, thats me :D Glad to help!

Br Mark

Ps. Please say your brothers in law and your sister hi from me, its been a long time since we met!

Re: T4 1971cc - Draw Through Turbo - VW Splitscreen

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:03 pm
by andy198712
can you mig that or are they ally and need tig?

Re: T4 1971cc - Draw Through Turbo - VW Splitscreen

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:53 pm
by Piledriver
You just need a file. no need to fill the hole, the starters center in the transmission hole, not the bolts. Works fine.

Re: T4 1971cc - Draw Through Turbo - VW Splitscreen

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:36 am
by Udo Airbus
Yes PileDriver , that was my idea too.. just for testing.. later make it reliable.

Re: T4 1971cc Megasquirt turbo - Budget with a lot of torque

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:36 am
by Udo Airbus
MegaRookie wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:06 pm
Jep, thats me :D Glad to help!

Br Mark

Ps. Please say your brothers in law and your sister hi from me, its been a long time since we met!
Will do when they are back from Italie!

Re: T4 1971cc - Draw Through Turbo - VW Splitscreen

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:03 am
by Lukas49
Udo, what jets do you use in carb? size?

Re: T4 1971cc - Draw Through Turbo - VW Splitscreen

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:30 am
by Udo Airbus
Good question, now 135 fuel, air 160 .. venturi 36.. I think to small, we will see I will use my Wideband..

Will start small, i have some tools to make them bigger..

Re: T4 1971cc - Draw Through Turbo - VW Splitscreen

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:22 am
by rubenski
Boost referenced reguator?

Re: T4 1971cc - Draw Through Turbo - VW Splitscreen

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:39 am
by Udo Airbus
that will be not needed for this engine at the moment.. those tweaks can always added later.

If it runs and drive... I will continue in saving money for EFI :)

Re: T4 1971cc - Draw Through Turbo - VW Splitscreen

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:01 pm
by GARRICK.CLARK
I bought mine from Auto Electric supplies in UK .
They have high torque starters for bug and type 2 vans.
Made by WOSP Performance. £200

Re: T4 1971cc - Draw Through Turbo - VW Splitscreen

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:54 pm
by Piledriver
andy198712 wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:03 pm
can you mig that or are they ally and need tig?
You can actually MIG aluminum with straight argon or helium (or various %blends of the two, the more helium, the thicker you can go for a given welder, hotter arc.)

This works best with a spoolgun, and usually provides serviceable welds for bulk fill anyway.
If you don't have a spoolgun, your MIG must be able to use the small ~100mm spools and ideally have a new teflon liner, and keep the cable as straight as possible.

Ideally your welder will have adjustable burnback, set to minimum, as the al wants to become one with the tip every time you shut off. Otherwise just try to make sure you have ~3/8" wire projection every time you let off.

Re: T4 1971cc - Draw Through Turbo - VW Splitscreen

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:12 am
by MegaRookie
@Udo, great! :D

For welding I used tig, with straight argon. Need good cleaning/grinding before welding.