First time turbo build

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Clonebug
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Re: First time turbo build

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I have no idea what has to be done to the board for wasted spark but I know you need two coil drivers.

I run that same exact coil on my buggy and have it mounted on the front side of the fan shroud to keep the back open for turbo stuff.
The plug wires are from a 97 Ford F-150 V-8 that ran two 4 post coils but no EDIS.

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Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.
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Re: First time turbo build

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Clonebug wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 8:49 am I have no idea what has to be done to the board for wasted spark but I know you need two coil drivers.

I run that same exact coil on my buggy and have it mounted on the front side of the fan shroud to keep the back open for turbo stuff.
The plug wires are from a 97 Ford F-150 V-8 that ran two 4 post coils but no EDIS.

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When i make my trip to the junk yard ill keep my eyes open. Plenty of Ford trucks
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Re: First time turbo build

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So I had a very productive weekend. Got my mexican intake in the mail and stopped by the junkyard for some 19lb injectors and a coil pack.

Got a coil pack and some wires from a escort and mercury
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Some fuel injectors out of a few ford 5.0 trucks. 19lb should be fine until I can find larger
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Got my intake mocked up
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Finished the MS2 as well
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Re: First time turbo build

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You need to find some bigger injectors :wink: ....I maxed out a set of 32# injectors on my Turbo 1679.
I'm running 45# injectors now.
They idle fine so you don't need to worry about idle quality.
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.
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Re: First time turbo build

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Gotta see what i can find at the junkyard haha limited by the old ev1 style injector.

Spent some time in tuner studio and noticed a slight issue. My board won't so any rpms when the rpm is adjusted on the stim. Here is a video of me testing everything rpms crank but then i loss sync. Everything goes green says it's ready then lost sync. What could be causing this?

https://youtu.be/mK3tRd77Wm0
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Re: First time turbo build

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Fixed the issue had to set to basic trigger

https://youtu.be/P-gWSBmRL3E
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Re: First time turbo build

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Yellow,

That JImStim won't work for wasted spark. It happened to me. When I bought mine the newer version wasn't out yet, bummer. I believe there is a mod for it. Look it up in the NET.
1970 VW Beetle with 2109cc turbo with MS-II v3.0, wasted spark, electronic boost controller, dual table, launch control and 3.88 tranny. All done by me...:) t03 running 48lb. Injectors, Intercooler, Water/Meth injection at 15psi.
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Re: First time turbo build

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Volky,

Ill have to look into that might explain why i cant take the rpms pass 1400.
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"Go find a set of 4 hi-res Bosch injectors at 45-50 lbs/hr. and you will be good for almost anything you want to throw at that engine. That turbo will support up to 270 hp so get injectors that will handle that much depending on the type of fuel you will be running."


Not trying to hi-jack this thread but I have a set of never been used Bosch 82 lbs/hr injectors. I'm not using them on my engine as I'm running 161 lbs/hr E85 injectors. I will let them go for a nominal fee😉 PM me if anyone is interested.
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You will need to add 2 bip373 coil drivers. Normal build will have you place q16. Do that. Then just add one more. You will need to connect the second to the 37 pin connector, then just run wires to the two signal sides of the coil from the 37 pin harness. The coil will need 12v switched to the center wire if i remember right. You will also need to connect the vr sensor. I don't know where that one connects. Been too long...
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Re: First time turbo build

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JustMe wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 11:57 am "Go find a set of 4 hi-res Bosch injectors at 45-50 lbs/hr. and you will be good for almost anything you want to throw at that engine. That turbo will support up to 270 hp so get injectors that will handle that much depending on the type of fuel you will be running."


Not trying to hi-jack this thread but I have a set of never been used Bosch 82 lbs/hr injectors. I'm not using them on my engine as I'm running 161 lbs/hr E85 injectors. I will let them go for a nominal fee😉 PM me if anyone is interested.
Hmmm i just might check on that. How would those injectors idle with low boost for my 1776?
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Re: First time turbo build

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Chip Birks wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 12:16 pm You will need to add 2 bip373 coil drivers. Normal build will have you place q16. Do that. Then just add one more. You will need to connect the second to the 37 pin connector, then just run wires to the two signal sides of the coil from the 37 pin harness. The coil will need 12v switched to the center wire if i remember right. You will also need to connect the vr sensor. I don't know where that one connects. Been too long...
Mario helped me out with that, all wired right :D
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Re: First time turbo build

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Found some 34lb/hr injectors out of a Volvo. Should be fine at the current moment i know ill need to up the size but until then ill save some green.

Going to spend some time tomorrow setting the intake up and check out the fuel line in the car.
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Re: First time turbo build

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Can you guys give me a run down on how to setup the fuel line and any items needed beyond the pump&filter?

I've heard lots of guys use the stock fuel line for their return but what about the fuel supply?
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Re: First time turbo build

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Make sure you set your ECU for the injector you have. My Volvo injectors were low-res and when I swapped to Hi-res I had to change settings in the software.
I stuffed a 5/16ths steel fuel line in my Buggy tunnel and wrapped it with some wiring harness spiral wrap for protection. It's in my build somewhere probably after page 40 which is where the FI started.
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.
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