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Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:20 am
by madmike
Keep the 1600 as a back-up motor and start collecting parts for the big one :wink:
being one fixed income :oops: seems it took me about 5 or 6 years to get my 2276 going.
Got a lot of good deals on used parts too(swap meet) like a nice Scat crank & carillo rods for $400 :wink:

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:02 am
by buguy
Well what I was hoping to do is use the 1600 to really learn turbos and tuning before spending the bucks on a big build. Also I think I might go FI so if I do that I want to learn it on this engine as well.

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:21 am
by lakis1982
does anyone have any idea about holset turbochargers ?? would a holset like HX30 or HX35 would be suitable ?? I see that they mention the housing sizes as cm^2 , but i couldnt find any more information.. How is that translated to A/R sizing ??

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:52 am
by buguy
I don't know for sure but I don't think they would be a cm2. That would be tiny. I believe my 12 valve diesel dodge truck I had was an HX 35 and it wasn't small. I bet one would work great for the power you are trying to make though.

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:42 pm
by Clonebug
lakis1982 wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:21 am
does anyone have any idea about holset turbochargers ?? would a holset like HX30 or HX35 would be suitable ?? I see that they mention the housing sizes as cm^2 , but i couldnt find any more information.. How is that translated to A/R sizing ??
You want the one with the 9R cast in the turbine inlet. It is the smallest and will boost earlier.

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:26 pm
by lakis1982
thanks for the suggestion.. can someone suggest or has any knowledge regarding power sleeves on cylinders ?? do i really need them for my application ??

thank you

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:19 pm
by Elturbobug
lakis1982...
I just posted a brand new T04E 57 Trim in the Misc For Sale forum. American made specifically for a 2 liter engine.

I also posted a 60-1 there as well.

Rob

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:00 pm
by lakis1982
thanks i will have ablook

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:52 pm
by woodsbuggy1
As far as the Holset turbos, the HY35 is the one Art is referring to it is found on 99 to 02 Dodge Cummins trucks with an automatic trans. It has a 9 cubic cc exhaust housing where the HX35W found on 24V manual trans trucks and older 12V trucks can have from 12 to 16 cubic cc exhaust housings which would be harder to spool with a small engine.

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:09 am
by buguy
This fella seemed to do ok with his HX35. http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,15843.0.html

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:20 pm
by lakis1982
buguy i have seen that engine before as well... However this guy use it for drag racing... I guess his engine is working far too high on the rpm band..
I will also try to find some information about HY35 turbocharger..

thank you

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:44 pm
by buguy
He does use it for drag racing but I read he does some street driving with it.
I would think it would be tough to make one work well. I mean they are designed to go on a turbo diesel truck that weighs 10,000 pounds and only turns 3500 rpms in a 5.9L. Why not get something that was designed to run at least a similar displacement, rpms, and fuel?

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:29 pm
by petew
Diesels use much smaller turbos relative to engine size. What you're sizing the turbo for is power, not engine size.

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:20 pm
by buguy
Yeah maybe. I seem to remember the HX35 I had on my 12 valve flowed 575 cfm. The smaller version I have no clue.

Re: Turbo suggestion

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:58 pm
by Clonebug
That's about right......

A 1641cc at 8000 rpm and 85* F IAT's would need 31 lbs. boost and 616 CFM to make 450 crank hp which translates to 15% loss on 392 whp.
They ran around 30 lbs. boost if not more.

From what I read the HX35 is good for over 500 hp.