Ghia Road Course Setup

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Re: Ghia Road Course Setup

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Re: Ghia Road Course Setup

Post by V8Nate » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:49 am

Oh man FJ I was watching some of your vids on YouTube, you were pulling hard on the escort when that rocker gave up the ghost:( I also watched your "turbo beetle" video getting onto the interstate and it is pure magic hearing the power come on when that turbo starts doing its thing:) brought a smile to my face that's what it's all about!

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Re: Ghia Road Course Setup

Post by Piledriver » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:54 am

I have a squareback... bilstein sgs up front, shortened an inch with old kybs as remote resis... done for travel.
eibach coils using bilstien coil over kit.
using late large sway bar, the torsion bars are also mounted no-loa or with only slight preload, making them work like 4-way shock springs (push/pull from neutral).

The front upper bar is straight across, the lower bars are not, angled up slightly, so there is some camber gain under load

rear early 944t, coil overs are converted fox 2.0 "truck" shocks, with A1 racing coil over adapters/eibachs.
I modded the cars upper shock mount for a better angle and axle/coil over clearance. late bars are also mounted no-load.

Front brakes are 1.125"x4 Wilwood superlites, rears are Brembo 944T fronts, yes fronts are smaller than rear, fronts lock first dry, ~same time in the wet. 195-55/16 front, 225/55 rear, on 944t manhole covers, 16x6 F, 16x8 R. (forged fuchs)
Front pads are pfc 14s, rear are padgid stock pads, possibly why the rears needed to be bigger.

It stops better than anything I have ever driven, and handles better than my 914 did.

If I had to do again I would skip the aluminum arms.
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Re: Ghia Road Course Setup

Post by xwestonx » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:46 pm

Piledriver wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:54 am
I have a squareback... bilstein sgs up front, shortened an inch with old kybs as remote resis... done for travel.
eibach coils using bilstien coil over kit.
using late large sway bar, the torsion bars are also mounted no-loa or with only slight preload, making them work like 4-way shock springs (push/pull from neutral).

The front upper bar is straight across, the lower bars are not, angled up slightly, so there is some camber gain under load

rear early 944t, coil overs are converted fox 2.0 "truck" shocks, with A1 racing coil over adapters/eibachs.
I modded the cars upper shock mount for a better angle and axle/coil over clearance. late bars are also mounted no-load.

Front brakes are 1.125"x4 Wilwood superlites, rears are Brembo 944T fronts, yes fronts are smaller than rear, fronts lock first dry, ~same time in the wet. 195-55/16 front, 225/55 rear, on 944t manhole covers, 16x6 F, 16x8 R. (forged fuchs)
Front pads are pfc 14s, rear are padgid stock pads, possibly why the rears needed to be bigger.

It stops better than anything I have ever driven, and handles better than my 914 did.

If I had to do again I would skip the aluminum arms.
Are you still on the stock beam up front? Curious on how this is all fab'd up. Also were you already IRS or did you convert the swing axle?

I've got a lead on a 70's 911 front and rear suspension / steering set up, but as much as I enjoyed Nate's build (the squarsche) I'm not sure if it is really worth all the fab work? I've got enough metal work to do just repairing the rust :roll:

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Re: Ghia Road Course Setup

Post by Piledriver » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:24 am

my cars a 73, so irs.
Stock front beam, just not used exactly in the stock manner.
I considered (and even dry fit) putting 914 front arms/torsions on backwards, with a fabricated upper arm/mounts rather than a strut, but a t3 front suspension works pretty well if in good shape.

I suspect the biggest gain would be saving some weight.
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Re: Ghia Road Course Setup

Post by xwestonx » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:27 am

Piledriver wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:24 am
but a t3 front suspension works pretty well if in good shape.
Now there’s the real question lol. Since this car was pulled out of a field where it was parked and fairly gutted many years ago (since ‘92 as far as I know), there’s a lot of “discovery” ahead. I do know that it the beam appears to have had an issue with the upper shock mount on the passenger side. It looks like someone had repaired some damage at some point by welding an additional plate to reinforce that upper mount.

Anyway, I’m moving forward with the Porsche deal since I’m scoring some OEM Fuchs out of it. No idea if I’ll use the suspension and steering components, but it gives me options if I decide the original equipment is too forgone and embrace a Frankenstein concept instead.

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