Wheel & tyres for track day use

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Alby
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Wheel & tyres for track day use

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Hi All,
Making some changes to my bug over the winter!

gone from type 4 1911 to 2056 now a 2270cc's going in :)

viewing the tyre/wheel package , im currently running 15 gas burners with 195/65 (possibly not the best track wheel?) have the offer from a mate for some +2" wider wings

keep reading most cars are over braked and over tyred
current specs are
bj front end
irs rear
porsche brakes front and rear
gas burners 195/65 tyres
cup brace system
dry sump system
shortly 2270 (160-170bhp)

advice appreciated
A
Ian Godfrey
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Re: Wheel & tyres for track day use

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I like the the 6 and 7 combo. 195/55 15 on 6", a bit of give in the side wall but stiffer than your current tyres, also brings the nose down a bit without the ball joints getting into bind.....
and 205/60 15 on 7", carcass is stretched a bit keeping it firm, thats where our weight is.
Use a nice rounded profile tyre like dunlop DZ03G front & DZSP1 rear or Yokohama A048R (both ends), 'cos of our old suspension design with no camber change with compression on the front.
Light wheels (less unsprung weight) will make a big difference, like real Fuch, not much is lighter than them and they are very strong.
You'll probably get this all under stock guards.
Good tyres are not cheap!
Alby
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Re: Wheel & tyres for track day use

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thanks for the advice Ian
can source the Yokohama A048R tyres ok

would be nice to keep stock width wings
will have a measure up later

the cookie cutter style wheels seem to be available in 6/15 & 7/15 combo's at relatively low cost, the minilite or revolution style wheels might be a cheaper option than orig fuchs? will try to get specs up later to review
cheers
A
Ian Godfrey
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Re: Wheel & tyres for track day use

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some wheel weights for you (not measured by me)
7" by 15"
fuch 13 lb (forged)
minlites 13.5 lb
cookies 17 lb (cast)
tele dials 18lb. (cast)
A cheap forged wheel but only in 16" the 944 / 928 "manhole cover' FORGED by fuch, just ugly. there are 6" and 7" in a few different offsets http://www.944racing.de/felgen/gullydeckel.jpg

lots of wheel info here http://www.944racing.de/wheelweights.php
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yodogg
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Re: Wheel & tyres for track day use

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Ian Godfrey wrote:some wheel weights for you (not measured by me)
7" by 15"
fuch 13 lb (forged)
minlites 13.5 lb
cookies 17 lb (cast)
tele dials 18lb. (cast)
A cheap forged wheel but only in 16" the 944 / 928 "manhole cover' FORGED by fuch, just ugly. there are 6" and 7" in a few different offsets http://www.944racing.de/felgen/gullydeckel.jpg

lots of wheel info here http://www.944racing.de/wheelweights.php
Hi Ian,

I would say from personal experience that the 7" Cookie Cutters are more in the area of 15-15.5 lbs (6" is just a hair under 13lbs). Those who know me, know that I am a big fan of these wheels. I believe it is very difficult to find a lighter high quality wheel at the price point these typically fetch ($80-120 US). The 15x7 wheels will require a wider rear fender (wing) and a small spacer (10mm) helps with trailing arm clearance as well.
Alby
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Re: Wheel & tyres for track day use

Post by Alby »

Many thanks for the info
looks lite the cookie cutters or minilites might be my best bet (orig fuchs a bit out of range£$)
have not seen minilites on a beetle before but they look ok on a porsches they also seem to come in a range of et's

Will have a measure up under the arches to access room available

cheers
A :D
84im
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Re: Wheel & tyres for track day use

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I believe Minilites are heavier than 13.5 pounds for a 15x7 wheel. Unless you go with magnesium, they are probably in the 17 pound range.
Alby
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Re: Wheel & tyres for track day use

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Thanks, I think you could be right , seen 16/17 pounds listed for 15x7!!
have a dealer nearby so will be going to have a look / weigh up soon
cheers
A
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Re: Wheel & tyres for track day use

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Dunlop Star Specs. Look no further.
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