In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
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In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
Being offered on ebay by racemachineinc
Search : VW type 1 type 4 Distributor IgnitionTrigger wheel System 12-1 Megasquirt
Looks the part -- any one with real in use experience care to comment.
Search : VW type 1 type 4 Distributor IgnitionTrigger wheel System 12-1 Megasquirt
Looks the part -- any one with real in use experience care to comment.
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
Price seems high for just a metal wheel and sensor.
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
Someone bought it
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
He came up with it in a thread on TOS.
CNC replacement cap with sensor mount and wheel.
Drops in 009 and probably many other VW T1/T4 distributors.
He can also supply it as a true 12-1, which will support full sequential on many systems.
(MS2E/MS3 at least)
He originally set it up as a 12-2 (with opposing missing teeth) for waste spark support on MS1, as that's what he has.
It doesn't look too bad. I provided some encouragement.
CNC replacement cap with sensor mount and wheel.
Drops in 009 and probably many other VW T1/T4 distributors.
He can also supply it as a true 12-1, which will support full sequential on many systems.
(MS2E/MS3 at least)
He originally set it up as a 12-2 (with opposing missing teeth) for waste spark support on MS1, as that's what he has.
It doesn't look too bad. I provided some encouragement.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
Why would someone buy that for 120? when for a little more you could get
http://thedubshop.goodsie.com/mini-cam-sync
or for a little less the bigger bulkier
http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDet ... tCode=7074
am I missing something?
http://thedubshop.goodsie.com/mini-cam-sync
or for a little less the bigger bulkier
http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDet ... tCode=7074
am I missing something?
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
You'd buy it because it replaces the crank trigger wheel and sensor along with the cam wheel and trigger. So, cost would be about half for a full sequential setup.
This is why Mario is currently working in a multi tooth trigger wheel for his Mini Cam Sync body. One system that replaces 2 systems in a very clean package.
This is why Mario is currently working in a multi tooth trigger wheel for his Mini Cam Sync body. One system that replaces 2 systems in a very clean package.
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
Yup, my new one is still in process. I just got the 24-1 in about 2 weeks ago. Didn't work out as I had hoped. The sensor doesn't pick up the first tooth as it should Possibly reversing the teeth and making it a a solid instead of missing for the next try.
Here is my origional 12-1 to the the new 24-1.
And a couple for scale:
Here is what the scope tells me about the 24-1 at 7k engine speed
Here is my origional 12-1 to the the new 24-1.
And a couple for scale:
Here is what the scope tells me about the 24-1 at 7k engine speed
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
Mario, if you are still using the same sensors it should work fine with a filled missing tooth.
I'm literally using the one i used as a true gear tooth sensor. (36-2, cut a tooth off, then welded it back in, became 2)
Wouldn't read ~anything with a tooth removed, works to >12k shaft speed with it filled in.
I did find a small rat shack clamp-on ferrite around the cable eliminated an occasional random sync glitch---they can do no harm. I also put on on the power feed to the coils to prevent HF backstreaming.
They can fix hard to fix weird stuff.
A 009 case/cap has room for a 60-1 32 pitch gear "wheel", I couldn't convince the fellow on TOS more was better.
I'm literally using the one i used as a true gear tooth sensor. (36-2, cut a tooth off, then welded it back in, became 2)
Wouldn't read ~anything with a tooth removed, works to >12k shaft speed with it filled in.
I did find a small rat shack clamp-on ferrite around the cable eliminated an occasional random sync glitch---they can do no harm. I also put on on the power feed to the coils to prevent HF backstreaming.
They can fix hard to fix weird stuff.
A 009 case/cap has room for a 60-1 32 pitch gear "wheel", I couldn't convince the fellow on TOS more was better.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
I have 3 different sensors. I should probably try them all to see which one works best. I really want to keep it a "standard" tooth count since it opens up more ECU's that is is compatible with. Changing the tooth count to an odd 36-2 might limit me to MS which can be an option when I have trigger wheels made but initially it will probably be on the back burner. UNLESS one of the other sensors pick it up better
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
The 36-2 was an accident, just explaining that it still worked.(On MS2-e or MS3, anyway)
If I hadn't cut a tooth out first it would have been easier, and a 36-1.
If I go there again it could be a 60-1, and if I use a Mallory (ball bearings, yum) it could be a 72 or 76-1.
Beyond a certain tooth count you are nuking rubble, though.
I'm using a '667 with a RC trucks steel spur gear. (not even nice square teeth)
If I hadn't cut a tooth out first it would have been easier, and a 36-1.
If I go there again it could be a 60-1, and if I use a Mallory (ball bearings, yum) it could be a 72 or 76-1.
Beyond a certain tooth count you are nuking rubble, though.
I'm using a '667 with a RC trucks steel spur gear. (not even nice square teeth)
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
It is also as fast to install and set up as replacing a distributor... perhaps easier.Chip Birks wrote:You'd buy it because it replaces the crank trigger wheel and sensor along with the cam wheel and trigger. So, cost would be about half for a full sequential setup.
This is why Mario is currently working in a multi tooth trigger wheel for his Mini Cam Sync body. One system that replaces 2 systems in a very clean package.
To set base timing/get running, set the MS timing to 10 BTCD (fixed) aim the timing light with no delay, turn the distributor until it is as desired and tighten the clamp---done.
Sort of like old school but can run a set of sequential COPS.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
Nuking Rubble. I'm gonna use that one some day.Piledriver wrote:Beyond a certain tooth count you are nuking rubble, though.
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
If you are using a similar type of sensor to Pile, it works on comparing two sensor points 2.2mm apart. The output is based on the difference between the two readings. If you use a very small wheel the 2.2mm could coincide with the tooth to tooth distance and you will get minimal or zero output.
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Re: In distributor crank triger 24/2 wheel
It does a bit more in addition to that, but the fact that I'm using with ~pointy gear teeth could be a feature.Bruce.m wrote:If you are using a similar type of sensor to Pile, it works on comparing two sensor points 2.2mm apart. The output is based on the difference between the two readings. If you use a very small wheel the 2.2mm could coincide with the tooth to tooth distance and you will get minimal or zero output.
The end flats on the teeth are quite small compared to the gap.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.