72 T3 MS3 with MS3X question

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I see you run ~100 KPA at key on, and at ~80 kpa at idle, which could be bad tune, vacuum leak or lumpy cam.
Play with you dash a bit, change fuel load gauge to MAP.
(They should read ~the same on your setup, but just for sanity)

Here's my current msq, hope you find it interesting.

Just like on msextra, posting the msq and a short log showing the issue is really needed for anyone to be able to help much.
(you should zip them up together)

Pictures don't usually help much for diags, ~mostly useful for settings.
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Daniel, read this page carefully.

viewtopic.php?f=66&t=132864&start=285

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Max Welton wrote:Daniel, read this page carefully.

viewtopic.php?f=66&t=132864&start=285

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Thanks Max.
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Piledriver wrote:I see you run ~100 KPA at key on, and at ~80 kpa at idle, which could be bad tune, vacuum leak or lumpy cam.
Play with you dash a bit, change fuel load gauge to MAP.
(They should read ~the same on your setup, but just for sanity)

Here's my current msq, hope you find it interesting.

Just like on msextra, posting the msq and a short log showing the issue is really needed for anyone to be able to help much.
(you should zip them up together)

Pictures don't usually help much for diags, ~mostly useful for settings.
Thanks I will take a look at your msq and provide my msq to provide information to those trying to help out.
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Max Welton wrote:Daniel, read this page carefully.

viewtopic.php?f=66&t=132864&start=285

Max
So Max is your thinking that I am see that reset also because of the 80kPa limit setting?
I had seen that setting and was wondering about it but being so new to this It did not spark the idea of it affecting the readings from the two sensors. I will try and make the change today and see if it make a difference. I remember you struggling with the strange performance issues a while back glad you were able to make progress on it.
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Dunno. But if you change it to 70 the problem gets one variable simpler. :wink:

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vwi_dduvall wrote:
Max Welton wrote:Daniel, read this page carefully.

viewtopic.php?f=66&t=132864&start=285

Max
So Max is your thinking that I am see that reset also because of the 80kPa limit setting?
I had seen that setting and was wondering about it but being so new to this It did not spark the idea of it affecting the readings from the two sensors. I will try and make the change today and see if it make a difference. I remember you struggling with the strange performance issues a while back glad you were able to make progress on it.
Well gave this a try but no change still not getting any reading change on the external sensor once started. Changed the limit from 80kPa to 65kPa
I do not have any screen shots but here is the .msq as it is right now.

http://volkswageninsanity.us/Postings/F ... ntTune.zip

Will try some more testing this weekend.
Might be good to see if the on board sensor will respond also. But will need to find something to pull a vacuum to test them since i dont have one of them tools yet.
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A simple test might be to hook a vac hose to each sensor and suck on the end to see if the change registers back in TS.

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Max Welton wrote:A simple test might be to hook a vac hose to each sensor and suck on the end to see if the change registers back in TS.

Max
This is my plan but I injured myself Saturday and have yet to test them. Packing to move to Texas and all the other stuff going on its putting a damper on things. Hope I can get it all ironed out before I have to take it to Texas on a trailer. Plenty of other cars to do that with right now. ;-)
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Texas? Yikes! I wager you'll be having a warmer winter than I am! :lol:

BTW, hope you're OK. :?

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Max Welton wrote:Texas? Yikes! I wager you'll be having a warmer winter than I am! :lol:

BTW, hope you're OK. :?

Max
Most likely and a warmer summer too ;-)

OK just limping along for a while.
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Re: 72 T3 MS3 with MS3X question

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Well its been a while since I have posted on my progress. Good news is that with the help of Mario (The DubShop) and Max I was able to take a drive today and actually enjoy it a bit as well as do some logging. Now I have a question what sort of things have been tried by y'all to reduce RFI noise? I am sure some of my problems are in how I ran the wiring as in hind site I should have done some twisting of the wire. So has anyone tried adding in Ferrite Cores?

As Max has pointed out to me I am getting a bit of noise in my ignition signal and I vaguely remember in the beginning of my project some one mentioning I might with how my setup is. Unfortunately I will need to stick with this setup for a while as not having a job has severely hindered the budget. If anyone else would like to look at my tune and last log let me know I will post a link to it.

Thanks to all for the input I have gotten here its been very helpful and reassuring.

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