Going under the knife

Notches, fastbacks, squarebacks.
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Re: Going under the knife

Post by Max Welton » Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:48 pm

This is frustrating.

Today my plan was to assemble the front suspension. Turns out I am missing the front torsion bars. I see a few for sale on thesamba but for earlier cars. My beam is late 68. I do have the sway bar and the little securing plates.

Are all the torsion bars the same? Joel Mitchel has some from a 65.

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Re: Going under the knife

Post by Piledriver » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:54 am

If push comes to shove Im using early bars in my 73, as the late bars were too stiff for my use... as I use the torsions as sway and anti dive (ala 4-way shocks) with bilstein coil overs doing the hold it up duty. (used the small body sg series, converted to external res/revalved (old kybs became the reservoirs, with the bilstien floating pistons)

I welded std loops on for decent kevlar heim ends on the sgs, as the ones tat come on them are junk grade steel on steel..
The torsion bars got slid in after the ride height was set, with the car at rest. Same out back.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
The longer a vehicle rests on jackstands,the more likely it is to remain that way...

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Re: Going under the knife

Post by Max Welton » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:33 am

Interesting. The rear torsion bars were larger for squarebacks than for fastback/notch (makes sence) but Jim Adney tells me the fronts stayed the same throughout. ISP only shows one part for all years.

Of course mine is stock (for 68).

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Re: Going under the knife

Post by Piledriver » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:11 pm

my 73 fronts were iirc almost 40% larger diameter, laid side by side it was an obvious difference.
I bet it was a suffix change or something.
I will dig them up I just finished moving everything and think those are still in "Shed". (the 86 Vanagon, soon to have a ms3 controlled 3.6L)

The pignose cars had ~all the extra weight upfront, between with metal inner fender reinforcements and about another foot of overhang...

If you cut off the frame horns and moved the gas tank, you could likely stick a 1.8T and trans without too much cutting. :twisted:
Addendum to Newtons first law:
The longer a vehicle rests on jackstands,the more likely it is to remain that way...

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Re: Going under the knife

Post by Max Welton » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:31 pm

Maybe if I wasn't trying to be done by April :D
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Re: Going under the knife

Post by Piledriver » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:23 am

Since you are in there....
I have considered adding convertible reinforcement bits in the rockers when I do mine to stiffen up the chassis a bit...
Not exactly the right shape for a t3 up front but thats easy to fix.
I also hope your roof is resting on foam at the side rails, wrinkles can be hard to get out.
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The longer a vehicle rests on jackstands,the more likely it is to remain that way...

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Re: Going under the knife

Post by Max Welton » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:28 am

Hard to see in this picture, but the body is on a rotisserie. It's not actually resting on the roof.

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Re: Going under the knife

Post by Max Welton » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:13 pm

NOS thrust rings from Germany 8)
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