Going under the knife

[GS guy]

Before the $$ goes down, do some googling on Summit/Jegs (or any brand you're thinking of using) AN fitting problems/leaks. YMMV!

[Max Welton]

Max - can you not just locate the entire filter on the other (front) side of the bar? Meaning rotate it 180* with the mounting now to the rear side of the bar with hoses & filter towards the front? More than once I've had to relocate items and associated plumbing/fittings/mounts/etc. to "make it work". Often many many times to find the right combo. AN stuff further complicates the situation with the bulk of the fittings and set fitting/hose end angles!
Jeff

Thing is the oil return is on the left. Between the type-3 shroud and the mustache bar and the fact that the 1+2 cylinders are offset to the rear, there is no room to get to the right side without taking the return line under the engine. Interesting idea though.

Edit: Seems I read your post too fast. Yes I could have put the filter forward of the bar. I'll have to remember that.

OK, I've made adjustments to the filter mount. Here's the before and after.

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This will work. I will now need to adjust the line lengths.

Oh Lee. I've decided against hard lines. The end of the mustache bar will be connected to the body and there is a chance of movement between the body and the engine. Hard lines might fatigue and break.

And of course they would do that 2 states away from my shop.

Max

[Ol'fogasaurus]

"Oh Lee. I've decided against hard lines. The end of the mustache bar will be connected to the body and there is a chance of movement between the body and the engine. Hard lines might fatigue and break."

While there is the potential for body movement which doesn't sound like a good idea in-itself but I am sure you have thought that out well; the choice sounds right and for (hopefully) the right reasons. Just be covered also on the softer lines because of the potential body movements there also.

Lee

[Max Welton]

Unlike a type-1, this engine and transmission are on a subframe which is connected to the body by rubber donuts. As I understand it, this is to help with sound isolation. One of the many reasons I like type-3s.

Max

[Max Welton]

OK, pump primed. Tomorrow I'll put the shroud, alternator, IGN4 and VR sensor on the engine.

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I need to source a multi-pin connector to bring all the engine hookup wires together up near the front tin. Let's see ...

VR 2 wires
IGN4 3 wires
TPS 3 wires
CLT 3 wires
IAT 2 wires
Injectors 4

That's 17. Eventually I'll add one of Marios cam position sensors and go sequential with the injectors. And whatever else I may want.

What is a good multi pin connector in the 30 pin range?

Max

[Max Welton]

Actually what I'll do first is hang the engine on the test stand and spin it for oil pressure. See if anything leaks.

Max

[Max Welton]

What is a good multi pin connector in the 30 pin range?

Maybe this:

https://thedubshop.com/pmu-16-connector/

Max

[Ol'fogasaurus]

For basic all around nice and quiet driving the soft mounts are good. For more aggressive driving then things like the need for different motor mounts usually can start to change.

It has to be your choice/decision Max.

Lee

[GS guy]

Max,
I'd run separate connectors for sensors/injectors and ignition wiring. Personally I'd run 3 different connectors - don't forget O2. Having ignition wiring too close to low voltage sensor wiring seems like a disruptive combo to me. IMHO, FWIW!
Jeff

[R2.0]

What is a good multi pin connector in the 30 pin range?

Maybe this:

https://thedubshop.com/pmu-16-connector/

Max

That looks like only one side of a connector. Perhaps an Ampseal set?

https://www.diyautotune.com/product/ms3 ... onnectors/

[Max Welton]

For basic all around nice and quiet driving the soft mounts are good. For more aggressive driving then things like the need for different motor mounts usually can start to change.

It has to be your choice/decision Max.

Lee

Of course. The car is intended to be a cruiser. Later the 2110 will provide more roll-on power but driving hard off the line is just not my style.

Max

[Max Welton]

Max,
I'd run separate connectors for sensors/injectors and ignition wiring. Personally I'd run 3 different connectors - don't forget O2. Having ignition wiring too close to low voltage sensor wiring seems like a disruptive combo to me. IMHO, FWIW!
Jeff

In the mule, the MS ecu lived under the rear seat on the left side near the VR. The entire wire bundle (excluding the 02) was strapped to the stock wiring in the left rear fender. Interference wasn't a problem there so I don't expect an issue here. If it is, I'll make changes.

Now the 02 sensor wiring will get its own path. The location I choose for the sensor on the CSP exhaust means the wires will travel almost straight up to the underside of the load deck on the right side, then run forward to where all the engine management stuff lives behind the rear seat. Its an AEM unit with an inline controller.

Max

[Max Welton]

That looks like only one side of a connector. Perhaps an Ampseal set?

https://www.diyautotune.com/product/ms3 ... onnectors/

Expensive.

Mouser has a bunch of stuff.

Max

[Max Welton]

Tested the oil pump & plumbing.

The good news is the pressure comes up solid now, 50 lbs cranking with the plugs out. Flat sanding the scratches out of the pump worked.

Bad news, my little stack of home depot an8 fittings leaked. I now have an order into Summit for 2 of their 1-7/8" -8AN extenders.

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/110592/10002/-1

Max

[GS guy]

Home Depot? I presume the filter mount fittings are female NPT (3/8?). Standard hardware store SAE plumbing fittings are 45 degree, while AN and hydraulic JIC fittings are 37 degree. AN and JIC play well together, SAE doesn't. With your female hose end (also presuming it is JIC/AN 37 deg.), it looks like you need an extended NPT to male AN adapter fitting - which I looked up and can't believe how much they cost!!! Sheesh.
With a standard NPT to AN adapter off your filter, the extension you linked should work. Otherwise a somewhat kludgy combo of male and female NPT nipples plus NPT to AN adapter would be needed.
Jeff