Starter fo 2.2 Subaru in '73 Superbeetle ?????
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Re: Starter fo 2.2 Subaru in '73 Superbeetle ?????
Looks like this is a good p/n 357972771 if anyone else is looking to get one etc.
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Re: Starter fo 2.2 Subaru in '73 Superbeetle ?????
Just another confirmation that this starter works for a Type 1 trans with a ej25. I used a rotary burr and it took a 5 mins and a few test fits but it fit great and was able to use the big dumb 17mm nuts that held the stock VW starter.
You can see the template i made and how much i had to remove. Hope this helps the next guy!
IMG_20230830_173636 by Travis L, on Flickr
IMG_20230830_175650 by Travis L, on Flickr
IMG_20230830_180219 by Travis L, on Flickr
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IMG_20230830_180100 by Travis L, on Flickr
You can see the template i made and how much i had to remove. Hope this helps the next guy!
IMG_20230830_173636 by Travis L, on Flickr
IMG_20230830_175650 by Travis L, on Flickr
IMG_20230830_180219 by Travis L, on Flickr
IMG_20230830_180102 by Travis L, on Flickr
IMG_20230830_180100 by Travis L, on Flickr- Kafer_Mike
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Re: Starter fo 2.2 Subaru in '73 Superbeetle ?????
FYI for others looking to do same TDI starter swap... https://dunebuggywarehouse.com/products ... gItlPD_BwE


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Re: Starter fo 2.2 Subaru in '73 Superbeetle ?????
That plate would adapt a manual tdi starter: the automatic starter throw is correct without a spacer. The manual version has a longer nose.
Do make sure to get the 9 tooth gear version.
The manual tdi starters are easier to find, but that plate basically doubles the up front cost, but then you dont have to mod the starter.
Do make sure to get the 9 tooth gear version.
The manual tdi starters are easier to find, but that plate basically doubles the up front cost, but then you dont have to mod the starter.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Bruce.m
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Re: Starter fo 2.2 Subaru in '73 Superbeetle ?????
Got a typical parts house version on my beetle.
Works well. The fit is a bit tight as the solenoid is above the main body so close to the parcel shelf. I also needed a longer bolt and gearbox stud.
Works well. The fit is a bit tight as the solenoid is above the main body so close to the parcel shelf. I also needed a longer bolt and gearbox stud.
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Re: Starter fo 2.2 Subaru in '73 Superbeetle ?????
I also needed a stronger starter, because I am converting my beetle to a Subaru EJ20.
Thanks to this thread I managed to make the TDI starter fit, and it works great!
This is how I did it:
I bought a generic starter from the autoparts website I normally use.
The starter I searched for was for VW parts number 020911024A.
It turned out to be a starter for, among other models, a VW New Beetle (9C1, 1C1) 1.9 TDI, years 07-2005 to 09-2010.
Be aware that you need the 9 tooth model!
Because I am in Europe, I had several brands to choose from. The one I bought was around 90 euros.
Here it is compared to the standard (1600) vw beetle one:

The round part that enters the gearbox is exactly the same, just as the cog depth.


The only differences are the mounting holes and the solenoid position.
I made a template using the standard starter:

Overlayed on the new starter, you can see how to widen the holes:

I used a 12mm drillbit to widen the holes:

While test-fitting I disovered that the lower mounting stud attached to the gearbox was too short to put a nut on it.
Also, there was probably not enough room to spin the nut.

So I removed the stud (with the double-nut-trick), and used a M10x40mm allen bolt instead.
On the other side, the engine bolt, I used a M10x120mm allen bolt.

The bolt was a little bit too long, so I added a 10 mm spacer.
The bolt threads into the adapter plate, and I didn't want it to extend too much behind the plate.
For a VW beetle engine, you will probably need a different length bolt, as there will be a nut on the other side.
Because the holes are now pretty wide, I made some small custom plates for the bolts to go through:


My beetle has the rear parcel tray removed, so there is more then enough space for the solenoid.
But I think it will fit with the parcel tray in place too. Allthough the solenoid will be much closer to the parcel tray.
After mounting the starter I did some test starts, and it works great!
The engine is not running yet, but the starter sounded strong, with good speed.
Thanks to this thread I managed to make the TDI starter fit, and it works great!
This is how I did it:
I bought a generic starter from the autoparts website I normally use.
The starter I searched for was for VW parts number 020911024A.
It turned out to be a starter for, among other models, a VW New Beetle (9C1, 1C1) 1.9 TDI, years 07-2005 to 09-2010.
Be aware that you need the 9 tooth model!
Because I am in Europe, I had several brands to choose from. The one I bought was around 90 euros.
Here it is compared to the standard (1600) vw beetle one:

The round part that enters the gearbox is exactly the same, just as the cog depth.


The only differences are the mounting holes and the solenoid position.
I made a template using the standard starter:

Overlayed on the new starter, you can see how to widen the holes:

I used a 12mm drillbit to widen the holes:

While test-fitting I disovered that the lower mounting stud attached to the gearbox was too short to put a nut on it.
Also, there was probably not enough room to spin the nut.

So I removed the stud (with the double-nut-trick), and used a M10x40mm allen bolt instead.
On the other side, the engine bolt, I used a M10x120mm allen bolt.

The bolt was a little bit too long, so I added a 10 mm spacer.
The bolt threads into the adapter plate, and I didn't want it to extend too much behind the plate.
For a VW beetle engine, you will probably need a different length bolt, as there will be a nut on the other side.
Because the holes are now pretty wide, I made some small custom plates for the bolts to go through:


My beetle has the rear parcel tray removed, so there is more then enough space for the solenoid.
But I think it will fit with the parcel tray in place too. Allthough the solenoid will be much closer to the parcel tray.
After mounting the starter I did some test starts, and it works great!
The engine is not running yet, but the starter sounded strong, with good speed.