Starter fo 2.2 Subaru in '73 Superbeetle ?????

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Re: Starter fo 2.2 Subaru in '73 Superbeetle ?????

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Looks like this is a good p/n 357972771 if anyone else is looking to get one etc.
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Just another confirmation that this starter works for a Type 1 trans with a ej25. I used a rotary burr and it took a 5 mins and a few test fits but it fit great and was able to use the big dumb 17mm nuts that held the stock VW starter.
You can see the template i made and how much i had to remove. Hope this helps the next guy!
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Re: Starter fo 2.2 Subaru in '73 Superbeetle ?????

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FYI for others looking to do same TDI starter swap... https://dunebuggywarehouse.com/products ... gItlPD_BwE
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That plate would adapt a manual tdi starter: the automatic starter throw is correct without a spacer. The manual version has a longer nose.

Do make sure to get the 9 tooth gear version.

The manual tdi starters are easier to find, but that plate basically doubles the up front cost, but then you dont have to mod the starter.
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Got a typical parts house version on my beetle.
Works well. The fit is a bit tight as the solenoid is above the main body so close to the parcel shelf. I also needed a longer bolt and gearbox stud.
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I also needed a stronger starter, because I am converting my beetle to a Subaru EJ20.
Thanks to this thread I managed to make the TDI starter fit, and it works great!

This is how I did it:

I bought a generic starter from the autoparts website I normally use.
The starter I searched for was for VW parts number 020911024A.
It turned out to be a starter for, among other models, a VW New Beetle (9C1, 1C1) 1.9 TDI, years 07-2005 to 09-2010.
Be aware that you need the 9 tooth model!
Because I am in Europe, I had several brands to choose from. The one I bought was around 90 euros.

Here it is compared to the standard (1600) vw beetle one:
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The round part that enters the gearbox is exactly the same, just as the cog depth.
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The only differences are the mounting holes and the solenoid position.

I made a template using the standard starter:
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Overlayed on the new starter, you can see how to widen the holes:
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I used a 12mm drillbit to widen the holes:
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While test-fitting I disovered that the lower mounting stud attached to the gearbox was too short to put a nut on it.
Also, there was probably not enough room to spin the nut.
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So I removed the stud (with the double-nut-trick), and used a M10x40mm allen bolt instead.

On the other side, the engine bolt, I used a M10x120mm allen bolt.
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The bolt was a little bit too long, so I added a 10 mm spacer.
The bolt threads into the adapter plate, and I didn't want it to extend too much behind the plate.
For a VW beetle engine, you will probably need a different length bolt, as there will be a nut on the other side.

Because the holes are now pretty wide, I made some small custom plates for the bolts to go through:
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My beetle has the rear parcel tray removed, so there is more then enough space for the solenoid.
But I think it will fit with the parcel tray in place too. Allthough the solenoid will be much closer to the parcel tray.

After mounting the starter I did some test starts, and it works great!
The engine is not running yet, but the starter sounded strong, with good speed.
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