Type 4 supercharged vanagon

With Turbo and Super charging you can create massive horsepower with vw motors.
K70
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Type 4 supercharged vanagon

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Hi,
With the availability of used or refurbished superchargers I am interested in a draw through carb system. Like a better modern version of the Judson.
My main concerns at the moment:
Belt drive - a system with no slippage or breaks
A big enough cfm car to draw through and not limit output
Fit under lid without cutting the body.
Engine reliability
I will be using a stock 2.0cu with low compression
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Re: Type 4 supercharged vanagon

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Depending on what supercharger you use some belt slippage under certain conditions is good.
A Kenne Bell or Autorotor must be able to have belt slip since the gears are held to the rotors with a wedge press and not a key.
Sudden stop like a back fire or extreme rpm increase / time can put the rotors out of time and since the clearance is in the thousanths destroy the supercharger.
I originally had custom gilmer pulleys made and was informed of this by Kenne Bell so changed to 6 rib pulleys.
Other brands you will have to do your research on.
The older I get, the faster I was.
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Re: Type 4 supercharged vanagon

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I'd say a amr500 is on the small side for even a 1600(although when I ran one on a 1641 at 4ish pounds it was a blast and ran really well) that being said a sc12 or sc14 would fit nice and yield good results. I would think a s/c from a 3800 buick or pontiac could work as well but I have no experience with the gm s/c's

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Re: Type 4 supercharged vanagon

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Hi, thanks I didn't realise about the belt.
I had seen a clogged belt on a supercharged 2.4.
That amr is ok for small type 1 engines.
I'm looking at OE superchargers from salvage yards like Eaton. Something that does not need high rpm. Am only going to 5500rpm. The versions are many.
I need something with an inlet giving room for carbs and maybe short snout/drive.
Something like MGB V8 dual SU carburettors and manifold onto the top of the supercharger.
No intercooler.
Hopefully using carbs slightly cool the induction charge.
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Look at the Mercedes M45 and M62 Eaton superchargers. Do a quick Ebay search for them for more information on them.

Then, compare Ebay prices with those on www.car-part.com. I did and got a clean M62 with the electric clutch on it in great condition for $330~ish delivered!
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Re: Type 4 supercharged vanagon

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I think this is above my paygrade- maybe could bolt it all on -but development is for much cleverer folk than me.
The engine machinist said supercharging was the way to go for real power as in the various mazda mx-5 he dealt with.
Talking is easy...
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Re: Type 4 supercharged vanagon

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Super charging makes for great low to midrange torque and boost but you will be fighting high intake temps off and on boost. A quality adjustable ignition system will be a requirement. You could see cruise IAT's as high as 160 degrees F. which can and probably will cause detonation issues unless you can retard timing depending on intake temp and/or boost levels.
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