2.0 Rods

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bpcatdog
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2.0 Rods

Post by bpcatdog »

What is the beef with the 2.0 rods? Is it their lack of strength (beam, bolts), small rod journal compared to the beefier 1.7/1.8 rods or type 1.

Can the 2.0 rods be used with with confidence with a 100 HP+ engine? Just want to know if it's worth the time and money to have rebuilt and used at a later date. Bottom line, how strong are they really?

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Post by MASSIVE TYPE IV »

They are good for 100 HP no sweat..Simply because the stock 2.0 914 had right at 100HP.

The problem is the beam weight....all that weight works on the bolts..
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I won't even touch the topic about taking weight off the rods. Seems like a lot of work to take off a few grams.

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Post by bpcatdog »

I would imagine that type 1 rods could be used on a 71mm crank, correct? Now to find someone to weld one up.

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Post by HAM Inc »

Back in the day Super Vee's used stock rods ( rules required them) without problems. They were 1.7/1.8 rods, which are very similar to the 2.0 rods. They were lightened extensively and turned 8500+RPM's producing 180HP.

With good bolts the 2.0 rods have been used on high-output engines, according to some of my customers.
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RE: 2.0L Rods ????

Post by Dominic »

Jake,
When will those new 2.0L rods be available to the public ?
Will they work with the stock 71mm stroke and stock wrist pin size?
Any idea on a ballpark price for a set ???

I think for the right price this could be a big seller.
Thanks for any updates.
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Post by MASSIVE TYPE IV »

They are on hold...

I need to order a minimum of 500 at once to get them at any decent price!

The rods are a 100% reproduction of the stock 2.0 rod except they have ARP bolts and are an H beam style that is 400 grams lighter.

If I can get enough sold they will happen, but i need buyers before I will go any farther.
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Post by Guest »

Jake,
Whats a decent price? More or Less than $400.00 for a set ?

400 grams lighter....thats awesome!

I'll buy at least 2 sets if the price is right just to get the order rolling.
I'm sure you can find more type 4 and 914 nuts like me out there, we just need to get the word out.
Thanks again for all the work you do!
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Post by MASSIVE TYPE IV »

I will have to get atleast 50 sets sold at 280.00 per set to even be able to place the order! The rest of it I can foot the bill for and use them here..
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Post by Tom in PA »

yikes, that is a smokin deal :shock: I can't imagine you'd have too much trouble getting an order for 50 in a little time. The problem will come when you want to do alternate lengths. Unfortunately none of my upcoming projects will need a set any time soon. I still haven't transplanted the 2316 into the buggy. You're gonna shoot me soon if I don't (If you don't I WILL) :oops:

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Post by raygreenwood »

Any chance for rods like that for a 66 stroke? Those could be a seller too. Ray
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Post by MASSIVE TYPE IV »

Yep, but the same applies.... Gotta buy 500 rods at a time to make it happen..
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Not to turn this into a buy thread, but put me down for a set of rods, 71mm, 400grams lighter? Wow I'm there..... JR
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Post by jrinlv315 »

Sorry thats me.
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Post by Tin Blister »

Many years ago, when I worked for an engine builder, we used to make trick rods out of stock ones by grinding the beams down, polishing them and then shot peening them. This resulted in a lighter and stronger rod than the stock one.While I'm not sure just how much weight this took off, I'm wondering if this treatment is a feasible approach to the 2.0 rod and it's inherent weight problem. Would a set of rods "massaged" in this manner be good for a 2056 set up for making a smooth, wide power band and not neccessarily high RPM's? I don't yet know what combination of components I'll be using, but probably something like a 73 Webcam and Weber 40's.
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