New engine pics, W/sidewinder

davygrvy · Post by **davygrvy** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:32 pm

Plastermaster wrote:My only concern (other than actually fitting it) is that it will be maybe less than an inch from the apron. The ghia apron curls under making a pocket sort of and the collector will tuck in there and maybe cook the paint off. The fit is tight enough, but I may need to add some sort of sleeve in there around it.......Kinda like a heater box?
Ron

Maybe wrap it in heat tape?

Bill K. · Post by **Bill K.** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:34 am

davygrvy wrote:Maybe wrap it in heat tape?

I looked into wrapping and decided against it due to corrosion and rattiness. Instead I painted the underside of my apron with high temp engine paint and then covered with adhesive backed Thermotec aluminized heat barrier. The apron lip is folded up and drilled out for drainage.

MASSIVE TYPE IV wrote:You 3 guys are going to be like the 3 Musketeers out there.. I may have to fly out sometime and hang out at some show in stealth mode...

Dave and Ron, I'm looking forward to meeting you and seeing what you've done with your cars. Jake -- you're welcome at my house anytime. In fact, it'd be great to throw a pre/post-rama RAT party. I have a detached studio for you guys to crash if you want.
On Guard,
Bill

Class 11 streeter · Post by **Class 11 streeter** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:54 am

Plaster, I can appreciate how much this exhau$t $y$tem has set you back, and I would hate to see your Ghia get paint burned, so it is with reluctance that I offer my bug as the first "test mule" for the A-1 T4 sidewinder.......could take a few years of testing in my car, though.....

Plastermaster · Post by **Plastermaster** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:50 pm

Class 11 streeter wrote:Plaster, I can appreciate how much this exhau$t $y$tem has set you back, and I would hate to see your Ghia get paint burned, so it is with reluctance that I offer my bug as the first "test mule" for the A-1 T4 sidewinder.......could take a few years of testing in my car, though.....

That is a most noble offer, but as I have made an earnest comitment to dedicate this project for the benefit of all of us in the T4 conversion world, this cross is mine to bear. However if you are sincere in your wish to help, my old engine, now on Ebay, if you were to buy it, would help ease the sacrifice I have made on all our behalf.

Ron

davygrvy · Post by **davygrvy** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:09 pm

Bill K. wrote:
davygrvy wrote:Maybe wrap it in heat tape?
I looked into wrapping and decided against it due to corrosion and rattiness. Instead I painted the underside of my apron with high temp engine paint and then covered with adhesive backed Thermotec aluminized heat barrier. The apron lip is folded up and drilled out for drainage.

That looks similar to what I did (at first)

Then I got frustrated and chopped a big hole

I feel like an idiot though because my framehorns weren't straight when I put the engine in.

Plastermaster · Post by **Plastermaster** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:34 pm

Aughghgh! Nows not the time to show pictures like that. LOL

I was thinking along the same lines as you Bill, but I'm still playing with my heater box idea. I think I'm going to be out of town during B O. I usually am memorial day and labor day week ends. It makes it hard to make that show. I'd like to see your car though. I know you've put alot of work into it. When I get my engine in I'll be wanting to make a trip to see how she does with milage and temps on an extended run. So, I'll be inviting my self over some day.

Ron

Ephry73 · Post by **Ephry73** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:58 pm

David, two words: Removable Skirt (no pun)

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MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:26 pm

Or ebay the BAS and buy an A-1 and pick up quite a bit of power at the same time.....

davygrvy · Post by **davygrvy** » Sun May 01, 2005 12:35 am

MASSIVE TYPE IV wrote:Or ebay the BAS and buy an A-1 and pick up quite a bit of power at the same time.....

I'm not good at poker.. was my hand that obvious?

Gavin · Post by **Gavin** » Sun May 01, 2005 5:42 am

Hey davygrvy - how do you know whether your framehorns are straight - (straight face)

Plastermaster · Post by **Plastermaster** » Sun May 01, 2005 8:26 am

My guess on the frame horns is that the engine is probabbly cocked a little. The engine I took out sat a little twisted. That is actually what happens. the torque of the engine twists the engine the opposite direction it is turning. You can see it if you rev the engine. After my engine was out I place a leve on my horns and thay are off a bit, but it is nothing the trans brace can't fix. Just a little more loading on one side.

Ron

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon May 02, 2005 12:14 am

Ron, keep the pics coming-we're getting tired of reading! LOL Looks nice man, do it right and get'er done!

Rick.

davygrvy · Post by **davygrvy** » Mon May 02, 2005 12:16 pm

Gavin wrote:Hey davygrvy - how do you know whether your framehorns are straight - (straight face)

Good question.. I know mine are out for 2 reasons:

valve covers are more hidden behind the rearward bodywork compared to other bugs I've looked at. The engine is more up especially on the right side.
right side air cleaner has moved closer to the edge of the engine compartment.

#2 is my fault because I don't have a torque brace. I have the brace now and all I have to do is install it. I'll know when the height is right when the valve covers look correct, the engine side tin fits and the bottom header tubes are fully showing under the apron (when I fix mine).

Plastermaster · Post by **Plastermaster** » Mon May 02, 2005 2:14 pm

In other words, he knows they are not straight because he bent them

LOL

Ron