Doesnt a supercharger make more sense than turbo?

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 11:16 pm

why arent there more supercharger systems. i mean with turbo you have to mess with exhaust, wastegate, and a ton of other stuff i dont understand. with a supercharger you could just bolt one unit to a modified manifold and pulley system and away you go. i might go turbo some day and im not knocking it. just wondering whats out there. i am aware of the monster superchargers a few guys are running with big holleys but im looking for a more humble approach (well actually just cheaper).

just wondering. Tim

James2 · Post by **James2** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 12:52 am

The biggest draw back is no one makes one that will fit under the stock decklid.

57 Magnacharger · Post by **57 Magnacharger** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 2:45 am

Try 2nd hand Toyota supercharger. The MR2 coupe I think had one & they have a slighly bigger one on a 6 cylinder. Very cheap , & being ex Jap , hopefully low Milage. My brother has one & is aiming to use for race on 2L type one.
Glenn.

57 Magnacharger · Post by **57 Magnacharger** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 2:54 am

My blower is a bit larger and expensive (well in Austr. anyway) 40ci Magnason.
I aim to cover it with fake suitcase on engine lid. I'm toying with a project to use T4 fan & modify fan housing to give more room to allow a small toyota blower to sit beside the fan housing.
My oppinion is that blowers match the engine characteristics of the VW motor - I mean they provide excellent torque through the low - mid rev range . I feel that the VW motor is best set up as a low reving , High Torque beast.
Any way have fun , Glenn.

Steve C · Post by **Steve C** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 4:30 am

Hi
I think you should read this topic and a few others on this forum. http://shoptalkforums.com/bbs/NonCGI/Fo ... 00058.html
I have only used a turbo but each to their own. A supercharger does not have anywhere near the effiecency of a turbo, if you think plumbing a turbo is hard, superchargers are no afternoon hot up either.
Regards Steve C

vwkid68 · Post by **vwkid68** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 1:05 pm

the main diference is A turbo is designed to give A small engine alot of power cause it uses the exhaust and air around the engine where as A supercharger is connected by A pully so with A supercharger you need power to get power.A supercharger would not work well unless you are planning on putting A monster engine in you vw. and don't worry about lag on A turbo most people that camplain about lag and try to fix it end up spinning there tires of the line to long so in that sence a litle lag is A good thing.

vwkid

JohnConnolly · Post by **JohnConnolly** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 3:41 pm

here's one good reason.

A good supercharger is $2K, a good turbo is $6-700.

John
Aircooled.Net Inc.

4Barrel Darryl · Post by **4Barrel Darryl** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 5:17 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by vwkid68:
the main diference is A turbo is designed to give A small engine alot of power cause it uses the exhaust and air around the engine where as A supercharger is connected by A pully so with A supercharger you need power to get power.A supercharger would not work well unless you are planning on putting A monster engine in you vw. and don't worry about lag on A turbo most people that camplain about lag and try to fix it end up spinning there tires of the line to long so in that sence a litle lag is A good thing.

vwkid<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Turbo's and Super's "BOTH" use/rob power to make power. Don't kid yerself otherwise. As stated above, Turbo's are more efficient and especially so w/ EFI of some sort. They both have a place in VW land and you will always hear good and bad on each set up.

I think Turbo/EFI is a kick ass package, just not what I run at this time. I have the DLI-Holley 75c.i. Powercharger fed by Holley 650dp on a 1776cc powerplant. Whoever said a VW needs a monster motor to push a blower IS WRONG. I'll give you a ride and you'll see.

Build what you "want", then you'll see people "want" what you have built!

4Barrel Darryl · Post by **4Barrel Darryl** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 5:23 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by vwkid68:
A supercharger would not work well unless you are planning on putting A monster engine in you vw.

vwkid<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

NOT TRUE. A smaller motor that is overblown will be more efficient than a "monster" motor w/ the same c.i. blower.

Also, as for setting up the DLI kit in an afternoon, if it took that long, you're doing it all wrong. LOL.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 5:24 pm

those are some solid reasons. ill probably go with the turbo when i get the time. until then what should i keep my eyes out for while exploring the junkyards. what car has the best turbo for this application? what other parts might i find in a junkyard? one of you turbo gurus should write a tech manual about building a cheap turbo from used parts for a vw. id buy one...

Thanks guys, Tim

4Barrel Darryl · Post by **4Barrel Darryl** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 5:46 pm

Tim,

Go to this site, lots of good info and junk yard tips!

http://www.dune-buggy.com/turbo/index.htm

Good Luck!

4Barrel Darryl · Post by **4Barrel Darryl** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 6:39 pm

You want to see decklid clearence issues?
got to:
http://hometown.aol.com/kwikkafer2/4BarrelDarryl.html

vwkid68 · Post by **vwkid68** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 8:38 pm

ok sorry for posting wrong infermation I think from now on I will post on experiance instead on what I have heard.

again I am sorry.

sorry
vwkid