A-arm front suspension

habeeb · Post by **habeeb** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:26 pm

Anybody know if this has been done on a beetle? Any links or pics?

Post by **Piledriver** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:53 pm

There are examples on the off road forum...

One fellow is converting a Super.

Also about halfway down the front page of this forum:
http://shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=113803

dklipfel · Post by **dklipfel** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:26 pm

Habeeb
Go to speedsterowners.com, use the "search" tab and enter "A-arm". There are numerous threads and several completed conversions. These are on pan - based chassis and should apply to a stock bug also.

In short - nobody sells one. Several one-offs from manufacturers and do-it yourselfers.

Post by **david58** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:04 pm

ellobo wrote:I do.....
Have a look.
www.a-arm.com

Cohibra45 · Post by **Cohibra45** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:32 pm

Check these people out. They are redesigning the a-arms but their system is a direct bolt up to the VW head frame:

http://www.eyeball-engineering.net/

Should be available this spring. The price will be around $3k. The only parts you will have to source will be a super beetle steering column.

Take care,

Kelly (Cohibra45)

dklipfel · Post by **dklipfel** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:21 pm

Kelly
How recent is your Eyeball Engineering info? I read in Hot VWs magazine that either the company or the project (can't remembr which) was dead.
Hope I'm wrong, sure would like to see their kit become available.

Cohibra45 · Post by **Cohibra45** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:32 pm

It was dead, but came back alive when Bruce saw all the talk and excitement over at GermanLook.com. I first spoke with him after I saw the article in the Hot VWs mag last March I believe. He informed me that he would not make anymore and I was really bummed. That is when I started doing research and the A-Arm threads around the various forums. I also talked with John Buscema (xvmotorsports.com). He designed and developed an a-arm suspension for the Challenger/Cuda Chrysler cars. They used a torsion front suspension originally.

Anyway, to make a long story shorter, about 2 months ago, Bruce saw the interest and decided to market his bolt on suspension. He and his engineer friend are re-designing the actual a-arms to accomodate the spring/shock better. I believe they will be bowed out a little, but will still use stock VW ball joints and spindles.

!!! He said that they should be ready this spring for bringing to market and the costs will be close to $3k.

This should include everything except the steering column from a super beetle. You will have to use one of these because of the angles of the rack and pinion steering used.

I can't wait. Should be a tremendous benifit for us. It will be totally adjustable with 6 points of adjustment (three up and three down)

!! That means that you can adjust it for great street tire wear and when you get to an auto-x, you can dial in more or less camber/castor as needed for the circuit

!!

Take care,

Kelly (Cohibra45)

Post by **Piledriver** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:51 pm

Would look/work excellent of the front of a buggy with nice big brakes...

Considering they get more than a new Toyota costs for a turnkey Manx buggy clone w/reasonable T1 power these days, an extra 3K is NBD to a lot of people, especially if it works well.

volkdent · Post by **volkdent** » Thu May 22, 2008 5:43 pm

I can't speak for other designs, but I have to say I'm really impressed with the change of my cars handling with mine, you can dive into corners and not worry about the odd side hopping sensation you get without the camber change on a stock BJ front end.

Jason

goofballracer · Post by **goofballracer** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:34 pm

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turbobaja · Post by **turbobaja** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:06 pm

Nice work Goofballracer! That thing looks indestructible!

What kind of spindle are you using? They look beafy.

Karl

pantswagen · Post by **pantswagen** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:20 am

IF

you use the spindles from a S4 928 you get

1. double 'a' arm spindle
2. bigger bearings -50.001 60.001
3. bolt on steering arms - ideal - just fab and bolt on some ones that are correct - or bend them to suit
4. radial caliper fitment as standard
5. lower ball joint bolts to arm
6. alloy hub
7. 2 choices ofbrakes - 304mm or 322mm
8. it dont even mattyer which way you fit the spindles, as if front mount spindles - use 993 calipers, if rear mount use the 928
9 if you want 322mm brakes - simply bolt on the 964/965 - 911 turbo discs aas they are drilled - use the 928gts big black - if calipers are to the rear!!!

volkdent · Post by **volkdent** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:45 pm

I started mine off using 928S spindles using Dobergoose as my reference:

http://www.freewebs.com/dobergoose/page3.html

The option of bolt on steering arms is great, and I would have moved to a front steer option.

The problem is they are MASSIVE!!! They are designed to carry the weight of a V8, so they are really overkill, as well as have a very large spacing between the upper and lower balljoints, which makes for cutting of the inner fender well on a street stock Bug application.

If I were doing a Baja, I'd be all over them.

If anyone is interested, I have a pair with the balljoints, camber adjusters, shock mounts, and nuts.

Jason

Buzzbug72 · Post by **Buzzbug72** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:00 am

Eyeball Engineering

shopteacher · Post by **shopteacher** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:09 pm

ok.. for the sake of conversation
we have it explained here based on our 2009 build
http://www.honkernet.net/AHS/department ... ension.htm
here is the diagram (large.. sorry)

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