Best way to lift rear end?
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UJSLOST
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Best way to lift rear end?
I was thinkin maybe some air shocks but your the pros so let me know.
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Ol'fogasaurus
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http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 4&start=15
Assuming you are talking about the shocks similar to the units that Gabriel makes then look at my post of last night above. If you are talking about the ones Fox and other s make, Ignore this whole post. This is a; ‘for what it is worth’ post.
The Gabriel style does have its place but remember, they are more for lift than for shocking. They can be mounted with either a single fill or two fills with Schrader valves. With the single fill, both shocks are fed from the same line bia a Tee and if that line fails, anywhere for any reason, both shock deflate to about 7#’s. With two fills, and one line deflates then the shock will drop to 7#’s and the other will remain full.
With one fill (and this is more for trucks) and you are carrying a load, if you go around a corner the load change can cause the shock on the heavy side to send the air to shock to the light side (air balance) therefore accentuating the over balance of the load.
With two lines you can preload suspensions if you need to,
I am sure there are other things I have forgotten but you can put too much air in the system by accident (see the URL above for my bad experience with them). I have used them off and on for years and knew about the good and the bad, but still goofed with them.
I hope this helps. By-the-way, presetting the preload is not hard and there are several posts here on how to do it. Spring plate notching is also covered on the Hibbard book.
Assuming you are talking about the shocks similar to the units that Gabriel makes then look at my post of last night above. If you are talking about the ones Fox and other s make, Ignore this whole post. This is a; ‘for what it is worth’ post.
The Gabriel style does have its place but remember, they are more for lift than for shocking. They can be mounted with either a single fill or two fills with Schrader valves. With the single fill, both shocks are fed from the same line bia a Tee and if that line fails, anywhere for any reason, both shock deflate to about 7#’s. With two fills, and one line deflates then the shock will drop to 7#’s and the other will remain full.
With one fill (and this is more for trucks) and you are carrying a load, if you go around a corner the load change can cause the shock on the heavy side to send the air to shock to the light side (air balance) therefore accentuating the over balance of the load.
With two lines you can preload suspensions if you need to,
I am sure there are other things I have forgotten but you can put too much air in the system by accident (see the URL above for my bad experience with them). I have used them off and on for years and knew about the good and the bad, but still goofed with them.
I hope this helps. By-the-way, presetting the preload is not hard and there are several posts here on how to do it. Spring plate notching is also covered on the Hibbard book.
Lee
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It depends on the ride your looking for 26mm will give you a softer slow speed ride. I used 30 mm which is better for high speed runs. Just like Goldi Locks and The Three Bears the 28" are just right for most people.CopperBaja wrote:Since I see a future sticky....
What are the recommended upgrade for the torsions once they start to sag?
I read 28mm Sway Away somewhere.
While not cheap, you can't go wrong with a Sway Away center torsion bar adjuster to fine tune them. It is easy to stiffen them up a bit if needed.
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Ol'fogasaurus
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I finally found the setting preload string that I was involved with. There are several others out there too.
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... ng+preload
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... ng+preload
Lee
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FYI;
model year vs. application
Size, Description, Applications
21 ¾ long, Short Torsion Bar, 60-68 Type I Swing Axle
24 11/16 long, Intermediate Torsion Bar, 49-59 Type I Swing Axle
24 11/16 long, Intermediate Torsion Bar, 69-72 Type III IRS
24 11/16 long, Intermediate Torsion Bar, 65-67 Type III Swing Axe
26 9/16, Long Torsion Bar, 73-L Type I IRS
Note: Measure tube extension past spring plate intermediate 4”, long 6”
Chart from Bugpack Product catalog.
model year vs. application
Size, Description, Applications
21 ¾ long, Short Torsion Bar, 60-68 Type I Swing Axle
24 11/16 long, Intermediate Torsion Bar, 49-59 Type I Swing Axle
24 11/16 long, Intermediate Torsion Bar, 69-72 Type III IRS
24 11/16 long, Intermediate Torsion Bar, 65-67 Type III Swing Axe
26 9/16, Long Torsion Bar, 73-L Type I IRS
Note: Measure tube extension past spring plate intermediate 4”, long 6”
Chart from Bugpack Product catalog.
Last edited by Ol'fogasaurus on Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Lee
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