Marmalade 2.1

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WBX Man
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AMBROSIA wrote:I spoke to Jim about conrod bolts and he said he reuses them for all his rebuilds without any problems. That's ok for a stock engine, I guess :roll:
I was tempted to get a set of 2.2 pistons and liners off him until I saw the price :shock:

Have a chat with him, he knows his stuff.
Don't reuse the bolts! The 2.1 rod bolts (or after 1986) are stretch bolts, they will never have the same properties again once used !

More important is the ovality of the rod big end :shock:
Imo this is the problem that is resulting in spinning rod bearings and kills the most WBXs.
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no i would not reuse bolts, will check big ends also. :)
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Stephanhipwell wrote:no i would not reuse bolts, will check big ends also. :)
GOOD.

I have yet to try fishing rods out of an assembled WBX block, but it IS fairly easily doable on a T1/T4... without splitting the case.

The only thing I'd really be concerned with is getting them back on right and not dropping or dislodging the bearings.

Consider Tencentlifes modded SCAT rods idea... Might be cheaper than a rebuild w/good bolts in Ol' Limey.

(Enables a CR bump too, with 5.5s)

Should be interesting.

Nice work, BTW!!!
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Piledriver wrote:
Consider Tencentlifes modded SCAT rods idea... Might be cheaper than a rebuild w/good bolts in Ol' Limey.

(Enables a CR bump too, with 5.5s)

Should be interesting.
will have a chat with parts dealer and mate that is more in the know than me and see what he says, are the pins on the pistons same diameter?
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AMBROSIA
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Changing the rods in situ is pretty straight forward.
It's a bit fiddly to get the caps back on though.
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Stephanhipwell wrote:would these be any good??

http://www.coolairvw.co.uk/ca/3764/mia/ ... id/7156728
Those are great but they are capscrew style, for aftermarket rods like the SCATs or such, search for tencentlife posts.

There is a thread on modifying rods, shows several options.

SCAT will modify a set of their Ibeams in-house for a 24mm pin for ~$20 ea, so that's like a pint of Guinness these days ? :twisted:

Probably FAR cheaper to buy direct.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Post by Stephanhipwell »

that's the thing i would rather pay a bit more and save myself the hastle, as it is a time thing now. i would rather not be running about getting bits machined.
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Post by tencentlife »

Definitely call Scat, talk to Ron. They will mod any of their I-beams in house to the 24mm pin bushings you need for $20 apiece. No minimum order. I haven't ordered these from them yet but will be at some point, some 5.5's. Hopefully they don't take too long to do it.
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I'll be after some too so ought to look at organising 1 lot of shipping accross the pond......... :wink: :wink:
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Post by AMBROSIA »

I've just bought the same style of exhaust as you.
I can see where you have reversed the left head manifold and presumably added an insert to clear the water pump.
Did you need to do anything to clear the oil filter?
Ta :wink:
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AMBROSIA wrote:I've just bought the same style of exhaust as you.
I can see where you have reversed the left head manifold and presumably added an insert to clear the water pump.
Did you need to do anything to clear the oil filter?
Ta :wink:
oi cheeky, yeah i added a slight bit and did a couple of slightly angled cuts before and after the filter so it bends round it.

i'm waiting on a couple of tools to come and i'm gonna make one like this as it will A be a bit tidier and B ready for turbo in the future. :)

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Thanks for that.
I better get some spare pipe bits then :roll:
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engine stripped and i've started to clean it.

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also doing bodywork stuff:

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Post by AMBROSIA »

Could I be cheeky and request some piccies of your exhaust mods.
I'm not sure if I want to replace my existing header :roll:

Cheers buddy.
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