my type 4 2L in a notch build

[Soul]

All thats left for those ITB's is to have the injectors flow benched, get a mounting plate made and welded onto a IDF mani(need to have my mani's shortened anyways so it shouldn't be a big deal), and get the K&N filters(they make an absolute perfect one that has the right spacing, diameter holes, and is only 3" tall)

Just thinking out loud, but wouldn't it be cheaper to pull/cut the tubes from the T-4 F.I. manifolds and use those rather than having IDF mani shortened? If you've got a hook up on the machining I guess its no big deal.

[supaninja]

Its not much of a hook up, i just know a shop that can make the plates and they do outstanding work. I just measured the stock intake pipes and they have the correct center to center spacing buttttttttttt they are only 34mm OD and the ITB's are 44mm OD, maybe a 1.5" to 1.75" reducer will work. I'll have to sleep on it.

[supaninja]

I followed soul's lead and now have a blog about the notch. http://1965notch.blogspot.com/

[supaninja]

Teaser alert, cover small childrens eyes, it might get a little R rated



I'll post a real update, to include: written words, lots of pictures, and a video of it running (knowing me it will probably be super goofy too). I'm deeply sadned to report that me and Google have gone seperate ways and that is why the blog is down. When I have some more free time I'm going to make newer and better one on wordpress.

[supaninja]

so a little update...it runs! I was wondering if all the extra components that I had leftover from assembling the megasquirt were important...turns out they were, who would have thunk it?

[Piledriver]

so a little update...it runs! I was wondering if all the extra components that I had leftover from assembling the megasquirt were important...turns out they were, who would have thunk it?

...Who would have thunk...
LMFAO!

[Tom Notch]

Now that is almost worthy of a sig line!

[supaninja]

I must have been smoking some funny cigs because 3 diodes weren't installed, u4 wasn't either, and r6 was missing too. The real funny thing is I had u7 still in its sealed baggy, "I wonder if I stuffed u4 into the u7 socket?" hmmmm, yup sure did. Even with my suicide terrorist sabotage attack, it fired right up. Now my engine just needs to survive the tuning learning curve then i'll be golden.

Fridays mission is to change the oil, check/adjust the valves, check the timing, get the alternator working, and make the "Nate" bellow adapter. Should be road ready this weekend, that gives me 2 full weeks to give her a good shakedown...plenty of time.

[Roverjosh]

Supa,

Congrats on a running car! Can't wait to see the video of it running. I will have the man cave finished in a few weeks, then I get to rebuild my motor and start the Megasquirt build. I will have many questions........right on, man. I am totally excited for you!

Cheers,

Josh

[Tom Notch]

Isn't playing with electronics fun?

You just reminded me of why I'll never do pcb stuffing again. Here's one- I discovered that not all serial cables have the same color wire to the pins as other cable manufacturers when I wired up my notch. That took awhile to trouble shoot......

When I do finally decide on the brand of ECU i go to, one thing is for certain, it will be ready to bolt into my notch! Making the wire loom and tuning (after I make the new plenum) will be "fun" enough. I think I finally settled on a Volvo TB, the one like out of my daily driver will fit great, rotates the right way, correct TPS, and the throttle lever BOLTS on!

[Roverjosh]

Tom, which year/motor is that TB from? I am collecting options as I see them.

Thanks

[supaninja]

Supa,

Congrats on a running car! Can't wait to see the video of it running. I will have the man cave finished in a few weeks, then I get to rebuild my motor and start the Megasquirt build. I will have many questions........right on, man. I am totally excited for you!

Cheers,

Josh

I'm by no means a expert on MS but I do have a working MS1 with direct fire ignition(which is the absolute bee's knee), I still got to dial in the tune but so far I'm quite impressed with MS, MSextra code, and Tuner Studio. I've driven Pile's squareback so I know once its all dialed it will run like a normal modern car, which is what I'm shooting for.

Isn't playing with electronics fun?

You just reminded me of why I'll never do pcb stuffing again. Here's one- I discovered that not all serial cables have the same color wire to the pins as other cable manufacturers when I wired up my notch. That took awhile to trouble shoot......

When I do finally decide on the brand of ECU i go to, one thing is for certain, it will be ready to bolt into my notch! Making the wire loom and tuning (after I make the new plenum) will be "fun" enough. I think I finally settled on a Volvo TB, the one like out of my daily driver will fit great, rotates the right way, correct TPS, and the throttle lever BOLTS on!

That would have sucked if you fried something. Whats funny is I have 10 years experience with electronics(military and civilian) and used to quite good at it. No harm no foul, plus I figured it out after only a couple of minutes of actual troubleshooting. There is so much documentation for MS, it took me some wading around till I found the schematic for the injector circuit.

What ECU's are you looking into. I talked to Alex about his SDS setup and he's not too impressed with it, plus it's super expensive. He about fell down when I told him how much my MS cost. Haltech has a new standalone out, my local tuner says its super awesome and the price is pretty good on it...does everything.

Tom pics of your new plenum/TB or didn't happen, after you do it of course

[Tom Notch]

(continue the thread hi-jack)
Josh-
The TB is off a 850/70 series, 55mm bore (the turbo one), 93-99 (maybe more) and they do make one that looks to have the IAC built in on a later one. I'm not 100% up on the fine neuances of them but the Non-Turbo looks to have ported vac and a port for the IAC, while the turbo obviously couldn't. I'll have one of both here shortly. and they are CHEAP

Supa-
The new Haltech Sprint 500 is what I've been looking at. its fits the bill and is quite reasonably priced at just over $900 US with the flying lead loom and some sensors (which I already have anyway from the last one I bought......)
http://www.haltech.com.au/index.php/pro ... sprint-500

[supaninja]

sweet, are you going to go with full squenecial? Have decided on what COPs your going to run?

[Piledriver]

Thanks

Being an old ECM troop in the USAF and fixing boards and doing some R&D/prototype work later on, I was living in fear of blowing it up, as I could never live it down

Immediately after you drove it, I discovered I was running with 27 degrees too much timing due to my missing the correct mark on a new fan
(It never pinged on regular, and the CHT was fine, oil temp fine too... No, I don't entirely get it either)
It only ran OK then. It runs a LOT better now.

Don't forget-
You can buy an MS1/2/3 fully built, tested and setup for your specs from many sources---
And you are not at their mercy for updates/fixes if your vendor relationship goes south for any reason.

Recall, I'm running a V1.01 "first group buy" ---basically prototype mainboard... It's over 10 years old.
(OK, I put it together from the original kit 6 months ago, but it's still technically 10 years old and still has full support and I use almost every available feature)

An MS3 on a v3.57 mainboard is fully SMD, same if you add an IOX. All plug and play.
The possible capabilities of that combo could go for pages... And there are actually several choices for tuning software.

Megatunix and TunerStudio are mutli platform if that sort of thing matters to you
(TS is Java and runs on anything with a full Java runtime (Not mobile java), Megatunix runs on Linux/*nix/OSX(BSD-Unix) or Windows)

There are folks on this board who can set you up with a ready to go harness as well.