Type IV Turbo kit price target?

MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:43 pm

80X91

sam, I plan on testing a 2270 engine built to "Kit" specs, like yours to see how much boost it takes to make things start to compromise..

The only killer is the KB pistons supposedly do not like boost- I guess we'll see if I can defy the rules set by the KB fatory and make it work anyway!

Ephry73 · Post by **Ephry73** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:53 pm

Would be interesting. Didn't Evil Ed use KB pistons on his 1.7 turbo build?

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MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:05 pm

I think they were stock. KB doesn't make a 90mm piston.
I used the 91mm size because I LOVE small bored Turbo engines and also so I could do some testing with a stock 1700 cylinder bored to 91mm from 90 against a set of Nickies that Charles and I developed especially for a Turbo..
Its all about being able to crank up the boost- engine size doesn't matter- just strength.

Ephry73 · Post by **Ephry73** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:40 pm

Sweet! with that stroke it should be a stump puller before the turbo spools.

Question, single TB or dual TB for the EFI Jake?

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MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:47 pm

Dual T/B...

This is a dual ball bearing Turbo- it will spool right off idle.

jonas_linder · Post by **jonas_linder** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:50 pm

The stock pistons can take beatings... My car pinged VERY bad on the dyno, I've never heared a car that pinged so hard, sounded like someone was banging with a hammer on the blcok

marekv8 · Post by **marekv8** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:50 pm

Jake,
Any chance this set-up will fit under the bonnet of an early Beetle?

Thanks, Dave

samcat · Post by **samcat** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:11 am

MASSIVE TYPE IV wrote:
sam, I plan on testing a 2270 engine built to "Kit" specs, like yours to see how much boost it takes to make things start to compromise..

The only killer is the KB pistons supposedly do not like boost- I guess we'll see if I can defy the rules set by the KB fatory and make it work anyway!

Not an issue as I am running a set of JE's

Would make a really nice upgrade for the future... Will have to start saving the pennies.

Cheers,
Sam C

Ephry73 · Post by **Ephry73** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:26 am

I'm already doing that.

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Plastermaster · Post by **Plastermaster** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:00 am

the price on that kit seems like a deal, considering all that is included. The turbo part of it isn't that much. I'm thinking those of us that already have 150HP but maybe do not have the optimum combo for the turbo, or the internal strength, can still have a hell of a ride with conservative boost.

Ron

martilo · Post by **martilo** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:35 am

Jake, i guess you see me coming...
That would be a blast on a super hero wouldn't it?

Plastermaster · Post by **Plastermaster** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:11 pm

One thing I was forgetting was CR with boost. I'm not sure an engine like Scamcats, Ephry's, mine, etc could take enough boost to make it worth while. Jake says he will be testing it on a 2270 built to kit specs, so maybe I'm wrong. It will be interseting to see.

Ron

Ephry73 · Post by **Ephry73** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:14 pm

oops, double post

Ephry73 · Post by **Ephry73** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:14 pm

Good point Ron. I guess at worse case scenario we can always use some water/alcohol injection to cool the charge.
With our 2270s the thing is head sealing even before we can worry about too much boost heating things up. I am even willing to step down to a 94mm piston/cylinder if it will help control head leaks(specially if using some nickies, then again, maybe some thicker nickies may help keep the 96mm bore under check with boost)

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MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:42 am

Only time will tell..
The fabricator finished my dyno Turbo last week, so it's just a matter of time before the seriousness starts!