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Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:15 pm
by Ol'fogasaurus
Yup, if you hold it wrong, it seats wrong or what ever the circumstances is, you can feel the shock disable you hand when you strike it

; dang it hurts! I've used non-purpose built tools to do the same thing. If it isn't what that is for, it sure has been used for it a lot of times.
It’s not wide enough to split wood though and too big to remove toe-jam.
Lee
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:33 pm
by Ol'fogasaurus
I am curious, are the hammer marks on the outside edge or on the inside edge, closest to the handle/ I would suspect on the out side edge.
Lee
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:15 pm
by SCOTTRODS
The only hammer marks are on the opposite end from the "point" as though it were driven by a hammer into something. This supports the theory of a "splitter" for sure. Could it be a tool used by a Black Smith or something special like that? for removing horse shoes? or maybe a Leatherman's tool of some sort?? I thought that maybe the tool had been used to "bump" something in place instead of being hit with a hammer also. Basically used as something other than what it was for.
The thing is, it was once all painted red (fine remnants of paint even in the blunt half).... Making it odd to be used as a wedge or splitter. especially since the most of the paint is on the Pointed end.
I got some neat tools huh?

Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:43 pm
by Ol'fogasaurus
SCOTTRODS wrote:The only hammer marks are on the opposite end from the "point" as though it were driven by a hammer into something. This supports the theory of a "splitter" for sure. Could it be a tool used by a Black Smith or something special like that? for removing horse shoes? or maybe a Leatherman's tool of some sort?? I thought that maybe the tool had been used to "bump" something in place instead of being hit with a hammer also. Basically used as something other than what it was for.
The thing is, it was once all painted red (fine remnants of paint even in the blunt half).... Making it odd to be used as a wedge or splitter. especially since the most of the paint is on the Pointed end.
I got some neat tools huh?

The way I saw it use was like between the body and the pan to separate the two if they were stuck together. The pointed end would be inserted or driven inside between the two surfaces then the tool would be driven down the length of the pan separating the two. Usually you would hold onto the handle and the other end would be driven but either end could be driven too
I've never been into horses (other than horse power) but I think they have special pliers to pull the horse shoe nails. It looks too big for splitting leather (sorry Leatherneck, nothing personal) as I think there is something other used for that (it has been way too long since I did leather work, maybe in the early mid 50's).
If you have ever seen cedar shingles split, it is kind of like that except the splitter is more of a wedge after it is driven into the log. It has two handles as I remember and a sharp blade opposite the handles. You drive it in to set it, twist on the handles and the shake splits out. I guess it could be used in this way but the shape is wrong (as I remember it).
I guess it could be used to split wood, just never seen it done that way.
Lee
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:48 pm
by fusername
or you could use it to scratch yoru windshield as you installed it.
Lee, so tell me, what havent you done?
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:47 pm
by Ol'fogasaurus
Oh, so much; almost everything.
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:54 pm
by helowrench
Maybe a leading smoother for bodywork the old fashioned way.
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:03 pm
by Ol'fogasaurus
It does look like a slap hammer a bit doesn't it but I think it is too big. While you can get them still I think, most of the slap hammers I've seen were made from old worn out files and they used the files groves to add a surface texture for lead or filler.
http://www.rodsandrelics.com.au/site/in ... &sub=tools
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 615AAkkc5q
http://www.eastwood.com/slapping-spoon.html
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/show ... hp?t=14950
Most of these are smooth faced but the ones I saw used in body work had a texture to them. Could have been just the preference of the body man for what he was doing too.
Lee
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:55 am
by SCOTTRODS
Hadn't gone quite "Slap Hammer" in my head. Mostly due to my familiarity with Slap Files which are used for shrinking Sheetmetal in body work, mostly. They are special files that you use by slappiing the metal, and the file cuts on the face of it cause the shrinking, due to their geometry.....
The "hammered end" of the tool appears at closer look, to have been filed down and dressed, indicating that this is normal wear like on the hammer end of a cold chisel or punch. The dressing is not straight, and the corners do not match the edge of the rest of the "bar stock" for lack of a better description. I have considered other types of tool applications, such as "Staple remover" or "Crate opening wedge". I think the paint would have been worn off more on the pointed end if that were the case, which brings me back to the paint issue. The paint is very old, and may be original paint. there is a lot more surviving paint on the pointed end than the blunt end. which almost doesn't make sense if it were used as some sort of wedge or splitting tool. If it were a "Slapping tool" I would think we would have ZERO paint on the Slapping face, and it should have been polished to a shine (OK rust would be found now, but no paint). If it were used on fabric or leather it would have been worn to shine also, removing any paint over time, as this tool has been used quite a bit for it to have been dressed down on that blunt end.
I'm not as old is Lee is (Evidently), as my tool world (and collecting) started in the mid '60's. I have neat things that I acquired from My grandparents (Both Grandfathers were mechanical to some degree or another). I have Jack Stands made from Model A rear axle housings, and other assorted Home made things also. Old 5/16" square drive ratchets.... and other oddities like that. I'm sure I have more "unknown tools" out there still.
I'm not yet convinced that we've identified the tool in this last offering... but I do believe we are onto something.
Keep in mind, on my tool game here, the tools are not often going to be VW specific (If they ever are again). Some are not even Automotive I suspect.
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:52 pm
by Ol'fogasaurus
Hey, I have been wrong before so it is nothing new to me.

I agree with your paint opinions but then you never know what a tool is designed for and what it is ended up being used for.
Lee
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:26 am
by SCOTTRODS
SCOTTRODS wrote:Tool #6?
This one is a tool I've had for a long time. I have no idea what it is or it's intended use. I think either end could have been a handle, but suspect the flat end was. The Flat end also has signs of being hammered on the edge. I don't know, but there may be some reason for the uneven shape as one side is slightly different than the other. The edges of the pointed end are not sharp, yet the very point of it is close to looking like it could have been sharp.... The pointed half has also been painted red at one point in time, not sure if that means anything either. It's about 3/16" thick, and the bend looks roughly to be 30 degrees or less. No names, no Numbers, No maker, No patent.... plain tool steel.
Happy Guessing (Or educating me).....
Got an update on this tool, just by chance. A friend of mine used to sell, big rig tools and such, and he said this tool was part of a large brake service kit. He said he didn't know how many he had seen thrown away, simply because they didn't do what they should have. So this one was a spring tool, that didn't work, and evidently was re-purposed for something else, giving it the hammer marks on the blunt end.
If you ever see another one.... you'll know what it's for.
P.S. I can't see the pictures this morning, on the company computer- - The Photobucket stuff has not been moved or changed (unless there's some oddity that Photobucket has caused)
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:22 pm
by SCOTTRODS
New Tool to Identify.... Try this one on..... It's a Snap-On Branded Socket of some sort.... I have in the back of my mind that I should know what it is used for,.... just can't pull it up..... Help a brother out.... There's 2 different sizes so I'm even more stumped now..... Anaaannnnndd.... They're 1/4" drive sockets to top it all off.

Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:07 pm
by Ol'fogasaurus
I have no clue for what they are supposed to be used for but I used one on a thumb head set screw to tighten it up but it was a disaster as I easily screwed the thumb part off the set screw.
Lee
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:33 pm
by bradey bunch
Hold the top of a shock as you tighten the nut.
Re: Name That Tool
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:13 am
by SCOTTRODS
bradey bunch wrote:Hold the top of a shock as you tighten the nut.
Is this an authoritative Answer? or is it a suggestion?

Sounds Feasible anyway....