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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:50 am
by RyanB
I was going to go with type 4 CV's which would give me 22 degree's of tilt acording to the BCR website. I am trying to source the CV's and not having much luck at the moment. There are NO CV's for sale on TheSamba.. Pretty wild.
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:16 am
by Leatherneck
Ryan here is where I got mine from, call them up unless you see it on the site but I would call. Do not know if they have any in stock but seemed like good guys to work with.
http://www.germanautodismantlers.com/home.asp
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:28 pm
by RyanB
Anybody know where I can get some cheaper axles? lol...
Sway-A-Way VW IRS Axle Set, 19 1/4 inches Long $186
EDIT:
Question... Bus Axles are 18 3/4". Which is 1/2" shorter then the custom axles... So if that is the case if they were centered exactly they would be short 1/4" in each end...
I could either push the transmission back some when I fab it up... Or just use the shorter axles? am I losing too much with the shorter axle?
~R
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:42 pm
by tuff_puff
check the samba classifieds there might be some axles on there used. but i would just say spend the $200 on new ones. try mkkenzies, or kartech. they might have them cheaper.
www.vwparts.net is where i got my stuff
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:50 pm
by RyanB
I might be inclined to do that. But it sounds like it is $189 PER axle. That seems a bit crazy. So the idea to move the transmission back somewhat isnt a doable idea?
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:33 pm
by Leatherneck
RyanB wrote:I might be inclined to do that. But it sounds like it is $189 PER axle. That seems a bit crazy. So the idea to move the transmission back somewhat isnt a doable idea?
If it where me I would give that a shot. The axle is a little short so moving it back is not going to lose any movement. So if you can do it I would try it.
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:12 am
by bajaherbie
doesn't latest rage sell some cheap axles? not sure of the quality though.
check with pacific customs unlimited.....
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:30 am
by RyanB
Well here are some pics! Not that there is a whole lot going on...
Here are my new trailing arms from Blind Chicken Racing. They are even blue...
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I am getting ready now to repair the damage to the hood in this picture. Which means everything has to come off...
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Here it is somewhat broken back down. I've gotten further then this though. Tank it removed and so is the bar. Body needs to come off next...
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OK... Now... a Few questions for you folks... From the BCR site...
http://www.blindchickenracing.com/How_t ... ts_101.htm
Type 1 is 12 degrees
Type 2 is 17 degrees
Type 4 is 22 degrees
930 is 25 degrees
What exactly constitutes a "type 4". Anything with a type 4 engine in it will have those CV's? So the later Vanagons? Where does Thing Type 181 CV's fit into this picture?
Further to this again at the BCR site...
http://www.blindchickenracing.com/How_t ... es_101.htm
They talk about type 924/944/181 stub axles. However what about Type 2 stubs? Are they better to go with then Bug stubs? Can you not use Type 2 stubs with Type 4 CV's? Obviously you can use type 2 stubs with Type 2 CV's. But I am only gaining 5 degree's going with Type 2 CV's. I may go this route thought to jsut get me moving....
As always I appreciate your input!
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:41 am
by Leatherneck
Type 4 in this case refers to the Porche style, The Vanagon axles are even llonger I am pretty sure. The Thing CV's are the same as t-2 and 4 except 930's
RyanB wrote:They talk about type 924/944/181 stub axles. However what about Type 2 stubs? Are they better to go with then Bug stubs? Can you not use Type 2 stubs with Type 4 CV's? Obviously you can use type 2 stubs with Type 2 CV's. But I am only gaining 5 degree's going with Type 2 CV's. I may go this route thought to jsut get me moving....
As always I appreciate your input!
Yes you can I am using T-2 stubs with 944 CV's
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:19 pm
by RyanB
Reading comprehension FTW! <sigh> Sometimes I skim things way too fast. I need to slow down and digest the info a little better...
Thanks for your input Leather! I appreciate it!
So, this is the breakdown so far. LEt me know if I have any of it incorrect...
From the BCR site...
http://www.blindchickenracing.com/How_t ... ts_101.htm
Type 1 is 12 degrees (Bug's)
Type 2 is 17 degrees (Bus/Vanagon?)
Type 4 is 22 degrees (Porche 924/944/VW Thing-181)
930 is 25 degrees (Porche 930)
Further to this again at the BCR site...
http://www.blindchickenracing.com/How_t ... es_101.htm
Type 1 Stubs - Your replacing these right? haha.
Type 2 Stubs - Same as Type 4 Stub??
Type 4 Stubs - Works with type 2/4 CV's.
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:58 pm
by RyanB
So.. Delving further in to this....
According to the trans for dummies at the top of the page...
Some Axle lengths
beetle 16 1/4"
T2 bus 18 3/4"
T2 to T1 15 5/8" (for T2 tranny in T1)
T2 W/3" arm 17 1/2" (for T2 tranny in T1)
T2 W/3X3 arm 19 3/4" (for T2 tranny in T1)
vanagon AT 22 3/8" (long axle)
vanagon AT 20 1/2" (short axle)
vanagon MT 21 1/8"
However sway away says some things differently...
19 1/4" Bus Trans, 3" Longer by 3" Wider Arms, Stock Rear Section
So there is a half inch difference there... Any input there?
And whats the deal with the last 3? Is that Vanagon model numbers I can find those axles in?
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:05 pm
by takotruckin
vanagons came with an auto (at) or manual (mt) transmission. with a manual, the axles are the same length. with an auto, the left and right axles are different lengths
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:11 pm
by RyanB
Thanks Taco... I guess I should have realized that since I have a Type 3 auto tranny I am putting in antoher project car. uhg.
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:46 pm
by RyanB
So this little project has been derailed since I am sourcing parts...
I've gotten everything I need to do the fibreglass repair on the hood. Should be doing that this next week actually. But I am still looking for stubs and axles and whatnot...
I saw this on the samba...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... ?id=345594
Is that a good deal?
Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:52 pm
by RyanB
Bummer nobody was sure about that deal on those parts in my previous post?
Not a whole lot to report so far. However I removed the body again. Glad I made it much easier to remove.
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If nobody has an comments on the previous post... Does anyone think I will be ok with Type2 CV's on the 3x3 arms?
