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Bugorama or bust, Oh ya we did that last week

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:19 am
by DNHunt
I finally had some time to post this. I have one of Jake's 2270 kits and I wanted to meet the man in person so, my son and I drove from Gig Harbor, WA to Sacramento, CA to shake Jakes hand at Bugorama. We also got to meet Pastermaster and Bill K. and several other folks. We spent plenty of time visiting. All in all it was great fun and it reminded me again that car people really are great people. Thanks to everyone who made us with the VOPO feel so welcome.

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Our trip was not uneventful. We didn't have extreme altitude like Jake and Bill but we got to 4300 ft. We had to deal with plenty of rain in the Northwest on the way down. The adventure started Sunday before we left.

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I've run MS since 03 using the same old 2.2 board. I ran the original code and then Hi-res on a 74 Porsche 2.0 litre. With that configuration I logged almost 6000 miles with only a few small issues. I converted that to run the extra code and EDIS ignition and logged another 1000 miles. Unfortunately, I finally killed that board by hooking up 12 V to the ground. I melted the flyback circuit and took out the EDIS module. It was truely sad to see the charred remains especially since I was planning a 2000 mile trip to California in 3 days. The prospects for my son and I actually being able to make the long anticipated trip were bleak.

Fortunately, I had an MS II kit in the garage I had been looking for an excuse to assemble. Over the next 2 evenings and one extra day off of work I assembled and installed the MS II and a new EDIS module. It wasn't all smooth and graceful. We lost electrical power when I was trying to load the code on the chip and I was powering the MS with a converter. I really thought that fate was against me. However when the power came on I redid the burn, loading the 2.36 ver, and all was well. I imported what I could of the tune from an Extra .msq file and we tried out the new install on the way to fill up with gas for the trip. We literally learned and tuned the new code on the highway.

I fully expected to have to call AAA and be towed but, we made 2115 miles in 6 days and averaged 28.3 mpg on the highway and 26.4 mpg in combined city/highway. The AFR was tuned to 13.5 at the lower end of our cruising range to 13.2 at the higher end under light load on level road. With the gearing in a 914 and the wheel tire combo we cruised at 3200 to 3800 rpms.

CHT never exceeded 325 0n #3 even on 6% grades in 5th and stayed consistantly under 300 degrees on level road. Oil temps were a different story and we found that we will need a remote cooler in addition to stock one. Many times we had to slow to let the oil cool.

For any of you that are familiar with 914's. This engine combo is the way the car should have come from the factory. It finally has the guts to back up the name.

Dave

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:14 pm
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
Dave, it was very good to meet you and Gerry. I'm glad to see you bringing that boy up in the aircooled lifestyle and teaching him what so many dads these days are not...

I also appreciate the fact that you drove all those miles just to meet me and see the Plague!

Guys, Dave is the best... He put me up in the Marriott in Sacramento and kept me from ripping the back seat out of the bug and sleeping on the ground (like the good ole days)... Thanks Dave!

BTW- Hell of a job on your 2270 kit assembly, I didn't see a single drop of oil under the engine and it sounded as good as if I'd built it myself!

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:16 pm
by Bill K.
Nice road trip Dave and Gerry. Thanks for showing me around MS. See ya next time.

Re: Bugorama or bust, Oh ya we did that last week

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:05 pm
by Tristessa
DNHunt wrote:Image
Whiskeytown Lake?

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:02 pm
by Sixty3GL
very cool story, Dave! I hope to meet you at the Northwest events, I'm working on an Oregon Performance DTM shroud conversion.

Re: Bugorama or bust, Oh ya we did that last week

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:07 am
by Wally
DNHunt wrote:
CHT never exceeded 325 0n #3 even on 6% grades in 5th and stayed consistantly under 300 degrees on level road. Oil temps were a different story and we found that we will need a remote cooler in addition to stock one. Many times we had to slow to let the oil cool.

Dave
Do you have the stock pancake cooling Dave?
If so, then there is still hope for the stock cooling system, even with a larger engine :D

Very nice results,
Tnx,
Walter

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:00 am
by DNHunt
Walter

I ran stock cooling. Head temps on cylinder 3 were fine. The fact that i run nickies probably helps.

Oil temps were a problem. we had very cool ambient air temps as we probably never exceeded 80 F. Several times I had to slow to let the oil cool.

Dave

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:36 am
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
I have ran the combo that Dave has with 914s many times with good results.

with the necessary combo mods it works pretty well, but the delta between cylinders still remains.

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:39 am
by Piledriver
"...we cruised at 3200 to 3800 rpms."

Unless you were running rubber bands for tires, you wuz flyin, dude ;-)

in a 914, Running 195-60s, 3200 is ~75 MPH, 3800 is ~95?

Nice writeup!

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:49 am
by DNHunt
205 x 50 x 15. We were flying under the radar. Actually, the speedo is off quite a bit with those tires. We were fast, but not the fastest car on the road.

the point is we got better than expected milage, hotter oil and cooler heads than expected.

Dave