Shoptalkforums.com

Yep...
After being gone from home for over a month the Plague get home last night...

What a challenge it was dealing with the vehicle shipping company! The car was days late, the driver never called and when he id d call he was a pure jerk... After coming close to a physical altercation with the driver I took control of the car again and rolled it into the shop...

Now the car will be stripped down of all essential items that are needed for the street, but not for the DRAGSTRIP! I have some rust repair to do, some "bodywork" to do and then it'll be time to take the car down to Tarmac Motorsports for a full roll cage install.

When it comes back from the cage install I'll shoot a fresh coat of it's well known "Viper Blue".... I plan on keeping the car "all steel" with no fiberglass parts!

Len is in work on the heads (LE 200 with only a chamber mod!) and I am still working on the first purpose built drag race combo I have ever attempted with a Type 4! The engine will be comprised with 100% off the shelf parts and will be a 2270 with 13:1 CR.

Full details of the engine will be on the site when I return from France. We are keeping the engine very simple and very stock based while using the same components that are used in my street engines, most of them with no modifications.

I don't expect the transition from my current race engine building style to be effective "on the first try"...

At any rate the Plague is officially retired from the street and it'll be living at the strip for the rest of it's life time, and I'll keep working on these drag race combos till we find the power to overcome the Type 4's bad rep at the drag strip..

BTW- Don't be looking for exotic components in most of these engines- we want to keep it real and mostly OEM, and off the shelf so anyone could do the same thing with the same parts.

This is good news. I'm happy to hear that you've finally gotten around to the drag racing aspect of the Type 4. I've long maintained that there is a lot of potential in the T4 on the strip, so the Plague should be a good platform to develop good street/strip combos.

Keep us informed!!

Tuna

hey Jake, if you get to the south of France, let me know, I'll buy you a few beers

Tony, We'll be at Lemans for the entire classic race in two weeks...

I believe that many of the failed attempts with drag race efforts is the fact that the engines were made too large size wise to attain effective RPM ranges..

My approach is going to utilize smaller displacements with an emphasis on efficiency. The first order of business will be to grind 5 different camshafts and swap them all back to back on the dyno. All 5 are designed, plotted and are in the process of being ground as we speak. Three of these are from Web Cam and two are from Elgin cams....

Good to know about the plague, I got a little scared when you threatened to strip it and stick it on a pole above the shop. Of course i knew you were joking.

The street/track is a much better place for it.

If you want to stay all steel, yet would like to go on a serious diet for the track...replace body panels with aftermarket.

I actually don't want the car to be super light.. I'd rather push a heavier car to fast times and keep the beef there for when I do crash it..

The car was going to end up on a pole, but that one pass at BOR when the guys that normally hate the TIV finally accepted me and what I'm doing- it changed everything.

On that pass I cut a good light, hammered every gear and made a flawless pass, and thats pretty good considering it was my first pass in two years!

I live 2 miles from the Atlanta Dragway and can drive the car to the track on race gas and slicks fairly easily... Plus I already had a close ratio gear box set up for the car and a whole ton of parts to make it a drag car easily, right down to the suspension..

Well, I will be eager to hear how your R&D goes. I'm excited to see what you find that works.

Tuna

I wish I had the chance to go down and spend some time at the Classic LeMans. But workload does not permit that.
Do any of you guys know, if there is a place on the internet, where we can follow what is happening downthere, like under the "new" LeMans race ?

I did search a little, but came up empty.
t.

http://www.roadatlanta.com/events.lasso ... 10&-search

http://www.americanlemans.com/home/ALMSHome.aspx

Here's where Jake will show what his T-IV's will do on the strip, http://www.atlantadragway.com/

Beth and I along with the VKG will be camped out at Road Atlanta for the Petit Le Mans as well... Beth's car and the Spyder should be there with us, unless the Spyder is sold before that..

farmer wrote:I wish I had the chance to go down and spend some time at the Classic LeMans. But workload does not permit that.
Do any of you guys know, if there is a place on the internet, where we can follow what is happening downthere, like under the "new" LeMans race ?

I did search a little, but came up empty.
t.

http://www.lmes.net/uk/index.asp , Farmer, there might be a few races around Europe for you.

What does a complete, in running condition Type 4 engine in street trim weigh compared to the same thing in a Type 1?

The weight difference is 25 pounds fully dressed with my cooling system installed.

Its very cool you are going to try this route.

I know surely you're mind is made up about this, but if I may: I would suggest a wider bore and less stroke for a more 'peaky' engine.
Since the type 4 is capable of a wider bore, it would be logical to use that asset of the type 4, especialy in a drag engine...
This would mean more expensive cylinder/pistons, but you could use the stock 71mm crank, which would save a few penny's there.
The idea is that the wider bore would let you use bigger valves and more breathing power for a more peaky drag engine.

MASSIVE TYPE IV wrote: .... the Spyder should be there with us, unless the Spyder is sold before that..

indeed!
What happend? Medical reasons?