Gen. Alt. Visual Diff

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ngneer
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Gen. Alt. Visual Diff

Post by ngneer »

What is the visual difference between the 2. Meaning standing and looking at the motor. Thanks
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Post by bugman742002 »

a generator looks like a long cylinder with two or three posts for the vlotage regulator wires to hool upto. an alternator has a lager section near the pulley and a smaller section towards the rear of it. they usually have a spde type connecter at the pulley end for the voltage reg to hook upto.
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Post by Speedy Jim »

Generator:
http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1604

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/view ... ?tid=50478
lots of pics of both gen and alt, showing how the physical
conversion is done.

General: The VW generator has slotted openings on the side
for access to the brushes.

The original VW (motorola) alternator used an external regulator and
had a 3-prong plug on top the alternator. Modern alternators have the
regulator built inside.

More tech info on my web site:

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http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
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Post by MNAirHead »

Add on question.. what years did the alternator have internal regulator?

SOMETIMES the engine code (70s) will be a clue.
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Post by CopperBaja »

Generator:
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Alternator: (you have to picture everything else attached...)
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Not much of a visual difference....until you look under the rear seat and don't see a regulator. :wink:
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Post by aussiebug »

Yhat top pic look slike an alternator too! It looks too fat at the pulley end to be a generator - you mentioned the lack of voltage reg under the seat but the top pic could be the early type Motorola Alt which DID have a reg under the seat.
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aussiebug wrote:Yhat top pic look slike an alternator too! It looks too fat at the pulley end to be a generator - you mentioned the lack of voltage reg under the seat but the top pic could be the early type Motorola Alt which DID have a reg under the seat.
I don't know....here's a couple pics of the old unit....I thought it was a generator.

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Post by rickosuave1987 »

Sorry copper that is an alternator
Heres a genny
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Post by CopperBaja »

Oh. Well, then I have an externally reg'd alternator for sale! :D
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Post by aussiebug »

rickosuave1987 wrote:Sorry copper that is an alternator
Heres a genny
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I was having a look at that engine (with the genny) and noticed that the single vac distributor is connected to the rear/bottom of the carburettor which is the wrong place completely - the correct fitting on the left side of the carb just above the throttle arm has been blanked off with the black cap/tube.

Only the double vac distributors (71-73) use the fitting low on the back of the carb, and that's for the retard function which is a second canister connector close to the distributor body - the other line (on the outer side of the canister - same as the single vac canister) is still connected to the top/left carby vac port.

You'll get some weird vacuum signals with it connected the way it is.
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Post by rickosuave1987 »

aussiebug wrote:I was having a look at that engine (with the genny) and noticed that the single vac distributor is connected to the rear/bottom of the carburettor which is the wrong place completely - the correct fitting on the left side of the carb just above the throttle arm has been blanked off with the black cap/tube.

Only the double vac distributors (71-73) use the fitting low on the back of the carb, and that's for the retard function which is a second canister connector close to the distributor body - the other line (on the outer side of the canister - same as the single vac canister) is still connected to the top/left carby vac port.

You'll get some weird vacuum signals with it connected the way it is.
Wouldnt know. Not my engine. Pulled it off google. But good info.
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Post by MNAirHead »

aussiebug wrote:
rickosuave1987 wrote: Only the double vac distributors (71-73) use the fitting low on the back of the carb, and that's for the retard function which is a
And at the last show they were all pointing at my car and going "notice the retard" .. thought they wanted to fight. :lol:
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