**Night Run prep**

[Leatherneck]

Changed the name to Mojave Road, cross that out. Night run prep now prep cause that is what this prep is for. Working on the rail, put the arms on and the torsion eliminater plate is on the inside of the arm vice the outside. What are your opinions? Also no chance of holes lining up, fill and redrill?

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[Ol'fogasaurus]

Leather, not sure what you are talking about. Can you get a pix that looks more down on what you are talking about. Words and their meanings change in different localities. I know I am missing something.

Lee

[ajdenette]

Leather can you unthread the eye out to make it line up or is there not enough clearance between the end of the arm plate and the eye mount?

[Leatherneck]

Ill get a better pic tomorrow. The plate that is hanging down will only go behind the arm plate. No room to move the Heim joint out enough to get it to the front. I can thread it in and out but that just would set toe in or out.

[CentralWAbaja]

Through the years I have seen posts about this. Some eliminator kits have a straight plate on them and some have a jog in the plate. I have seen where sometimes the arms are totally jacked and then guys swap them sided to side and they are good.

Same issue on both sides?
Are the eliminator kits meant to go to these arms?
Are you going into a stock T-housing?
Can you see if a stock spring plate lines up?
Can you mock up a hub on the arms and check toe and camber to see if something is tweaked at the inner pivot.
If none of that helps give answers then maybe have to make your own new conversion kits to fit these arms?

[Leatherneck]

Through the years I have seen posts about this. Some eliminator kits have a straight plate on them and some have a jog in the plate. I have seen where sometimes the arms are totally jacked and then guys swap them sided to side and they are good.

Same issue on both sides? Yes
Are the eliminator kits meant to go to these arms? No
Are you going into a stock T-housing? No
Can you see if a stock spring plate lines up? See pic
Can you mock up a hub on the arms and check toe and camber to see if something is tweaked at the inner pivot. I can, just with my calibrated eye it looks good.
If none of that helps give answers then maybe have to make your own new conversion kits to fit these arms? Kind of looking that way if the eliminator can't go on the other side of the arm plate.

There is a 3/4 inch gap between the eliminator and the arm plate, even if I take the misalignment out and still no joy.

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[CentralWAbaja]

What happens if you flip the conversion piece so the plate is outside and the bung is inside?

[Leatherneck]

The conversation piece will mate to the Arm plate but on the inside. I’m not sure if it really matters as Long as it is a free motion with no binding.

[Ol'fogasaurus]

Got some questions Leather.

Is this a new or old frame you are working on. Is the beam a new beam or a reused beam. Just for giggles, do you have an existing beam in good shape measure it then check it against the beam on the rail. The same thing with the pivot points. I seem to remember that some places that use custom beams or will trim old beams for what ever reason. Three quarters of an inch is a lot of gap; is that per side or overall.

Lee

On my IRS beam I got a measurement of roughly 41 1/2 inches.

[Leatherneck]

Got some questions Leather.

Is this a new or old frame you are working on. Is the beam a new beam or a reused beam. Just for giggles, do you have an existing beam in good shape measure it then check it against the beam on the rail. The same thing with the pivot points. I seem to remember that some places that use custom beams or will trim old beams for what ever reason. Three quarters of an inch is a lot of gap; is that per side or overall.

Lee

On my IRS beam I got a measurement of roughly 41 1/2 inches.

New old frame, the guy was building the frame and a kid came along so a 2 seater was no longer needed.

Reused beam

I have 41 1/2 outside of Heim to outside of Heim.

It is 3/4” but only if the torsion eliminator plate is on the outside of the arm plate. Put the eliminator plate on the inside it is flush. So is there a reason the plate can’t go on the inside?

[Ol'fogasaurus]

I don't see why not. Are there threads on the on either of the two pieces? If not a bolt with a shank or a shoulder bolt could be used to ensure that the threads are not in shear.

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(remember, I am used to having more access to bolts than are available at most box or even fastener stores so I think that way.) what this doesn't show is "the grip" which is the stack up of material, including washers that are being "gripped" together. This references the "grip" on the shank but the grip should be slightly shorter than the shank as when you torque down the nut you are also stretching the material of the bolt. Also don't forget the nut on the thread dimensions .

Lee

[Leatherneck]

I need to start a build thread. Anyway so putting the tranny in and I’m FUBAR’d. This is a 10* mount, back and front are to high, I would be loosing travel with the CV so high up would I not? Zoom in, front mount is on top of torsion housing without installing torsion piece, rear seem way to high for me. What say you?

[Ol'fogasaurus]

Leather, it looks like something is installed wrong as the nose cone location looks to be backwards. The "nose down" is designed to go into the equivalent location as it would into a tunnel/in more or less the stock location the nose cone would/should be to work with a stock shifter rod.

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This is a 6 rib bus transaxle into a IRS bug but with no nose down mount. The nose cone in this case is about a half an inch above the rear cross-piece. As you can see, the trans fits snug, but not too snug, in-between the pickle forks.

The CVs should work correctly no matter what the angle of the trans is as they are independent of how it sits fore and aft.

Lee

[Leatherneck]

I turned the mount upside down at the nose, it brings the CV’s way down but will have to redrill the holes because the urethane mount in front hits the nose cone.

[Ol'fogasaurus]

I thought that might be part of it but the mount on the rear I don't remember seeing something like that before. It's going to be interesting to watch this build.

Lee