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New WBX 84mm 4340 crank w. std. journals IN STOCK

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:50 am
by tmbryhn
I couldn't find an 84mm 4340 WBX crank w. std. main & rod journals that I really liked for my Oxy build, so I decided to make one...

The prototype has already been tested with great success in my NA drag engine, and after some minor design adjustments, the the first batch of production cranks arrived in the shop last spring.

This one slides right into the WBX case without modifications using rods w. 5/16 bolts.

I'm shipping worldwide and the crank currently retails at 590$
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Send me a PM for interest.

Re: New WBX 84mm 4340 crank w. std. journals IN STOCK

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:23 am
by marcotheturbosteamengine
Looks good!! I’ll PM you thanks

Re: New WBX 84mm 4340 crank w. std. journals IN STOCK

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:57 pm
by DORIGTT
I PM'd you as well.

Re: New WBX 84mm 4340 crank w. std. journals IN STOCK

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:37 pm
by CarenzoCustoms
Very nice, are you planing to do a 86mm chevy journal??

Re: New WBX 84mm 4340 crank w. std. journals IN STOCK

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:30 am
by tmbryhn
It's absolutely possible.
However, I prefer keeping the VW rod journals and 84mm because of the larger cross-sectional overlap between the mains and rods journal it features compared to the 86mm Chevy alternative. The increased overlap gives a stronger crank more resistant to flex at higher revs.
Besides, the case might need modifications internally if the stroke is increased further, which would overcast one of the intentions for this product; to be a bolt-in solution with the right set of connecting rods.
The 2mm increase in stroke would for any given cylinder bore only yield a marginal increase of 2.3% in total cylinder volume - that's hardly noticeable, and you'd gain more by instead taking the time and setting up your engine spec properly ;) That being said, yes, it's absolutely true that there's no "replacement for displacement", but I'd rather make a small compromise on stroke/journal size and end up with a more robust bottom end suitable for a wider set of applications.

Let me know if you have more questions.

Re: New WBX 84mm 4340 crank w. std. journals IN STOCK

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:46 am
by Badbugtwo
Looks like a type 1 crank with the flywheel end 5 bolt. Probably okay for lower power builds, but I doubt as strong as an OE crank.

Re: New WBX 84mm 4340 crank w. std. journals IN STOCK

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:41 am
by tmbryhn
Yes, it's based on the regular T1 design. Next revision is planned to have the wider "humps" incorporated, resembling the stock WBX design and adding further stiffness to the crank. I will simultaneously modify the forge tool to make room for T4 mains so that the raw forges can be machined to both stock and T4 spec in order to suit the application and costumer preference. All in good time ;)

On another note though; the forged aftermarket T1 cranks have proven to hold up rather well in high power applications over the years, even though they're often used in less rigid (stock) crank cases. It can also be argued that welding and modifying a stock crank in favor of a fresh piece of 4340 forging, is dubious.
In the end it boils down to the builds purpose itself: Most people are simply interested in upgrading their WBX engines, or build a bullet proof Oxy-boxer in favor of the T1 platform. I'm part of the latter group, and my Oxy is working flawlessly up to 7700 rpm thus far :)

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I find the significant difference in sustain between the stock and 4340 crank rather interesting:

Re: New WBX 84mm 4340 crank w. std. journals IN STOCK

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:02 pm
by Badbugtwo
tmbryhn wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:41 am ...Next revision is planned to have the wider "humps" incorporated, resembling the stock WBX design and adding further stiffness to the crank. I will simultaneously modify the forge tool to make room for T4 mains so that the raw forges can be machined to both stock and T4 spec in order to suit the application and costumer preference...
Awesome! Sounds good and good luck with your venture!

Re: New WBX 84mm 4340 crank w. std. journals IN STOCK

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:49 pm
by tmbryhn
Thanks man ;)

Re: New WBX 84mm 4340 crank w. std. journals IN STOCK

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:16 am
by Steve Arndt
Glad to see you here. I've been following your super trick build project on Facebook.

Re: New WBX 84mm 4340 crank w. std. journals IN STOCK

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:55 am
by andy198712
fly by wire twin throttle bodies? wow!