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Type 4 turbo in a speedster rep
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:25 pm
by GARRICK.CLARK1
Hi Guy's.
I'm building a speedster rep at the moment.
I had a type 4 turbo motor in a 67 bug. Sold that, kept the engine.
It felt unsafe , no matter how I set up the suspension. Always felt heavy on the rear end.
Do you think this motor in a speedster rep , with it being on a shorter vw chassis will be more stable.
Has anyone done a t4 turbo a speedster rep before , and is active on here.
Re: Type 4 turbo in a speedster rep
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 8:13 am
by Piledriver
Hipo T4 is not that much heavier than a bone stock t1 with heat exchangers.
Hipo tr cant really use the stock t4 heat exchangers as they are a huge limiter.
A gas or diesel heater install in the trunk works much better anyway.
Have put t4s in early super and a squareback. weight difference was not remotely noticable, but both cars got lowered a little and beefed up to take the additional power, wider rims, more tire, revalved Bilstein shocks or coil overs etc.
Should be a blast in a speedster..
Re: Type 4 turbo in a speedster rep
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 9:11 am
by GARRICK.CLARK1
Thank's PileDriver.
The motor has an oval port stainless 1 piece. I'm wondering if the tubes that drop down from the ports will be too low and end up getting bashed about. The engine bay is huge in comparison to a bug. I'd probably need to cut the merge off the pipes and position it verticle ,so the 3 bolt triangle mount is horizontal looking.
Re: Type 4 turbo in a speedster rep
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:47 am
by Piledriver
Unless you are going swing axle you have a lot of freedom engine and transmission height wise.
Even if you do for historical reasons, those tubes and the exhaust shouldn't go below the engine sump.
Can't visualize the exact issue without pictures.
Those cars are selling for far more than the originals did not that long ago, back when we were kids they could be had for a few grand in not running but all there shape, much like early 911s and hemi `cudas or superbirds.
Re: Type 4 turbo in a speedster rep
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:14 am
by GARRICK.CLARK1
Hi Piledriver.
I've not got pics of it. I could take some. The lowest point on this header is possibly the height of the flat underside of a type 4 heater changer when bolted to the heads.
Rear is 1 spline down. Needs to be 1 down so as the car looks right. Rolling on 165 80 15's.
I'll only know if it gunna work is if I do a trial fit i suppose.
Re: Type 4 turbo in a speedster rep
Posted: Wed May 20, 2026 1:01 pm
by GARRICK.CLARK1
Back again. It's been a while. I've been doing general work to most of this speedster Rep. It's a full build, so every bit of it is time consuming. I've got the original 1600 motor back in. Had to make a steel firewall for it. Then spent literally weeks tweaking/welding/fabricating none original tins etc. I've now got a 20mm gap all the way around the engine bay ready for a clip on rubber seal. The vintage speed exhaust is on. That has an issue. It's not level with the body. Found that issue. It needs a 5mm spacer on one side. I'll make that out of aluminum. Be easier than ringing round trying to get one Lazer cut out of stainless.
Previously I spoke about the weight of the header/turbo set up. I lifted it today. It is fairly heavy. But saying that, a pair of type 4 heaters and a silencer combined, lifted by anyone, would still be a fair weight.
My thoughts now are to the type 4 turbo I had in my 67 bug.
Seeing as I've spent ages on getting the type 1 to fit with no air gaps. I'm going to have to do the same for the type 4, sealing the heat of the header and turbo away from the upper engine bay area is going to be another challenge. Also the CSP fibreglass shrouds are a bad fit. I need to re jig those to make a better fit. The gap where the type 1 shroud slots in, is too wide, so I'll need to add fibre glass to that area. And on it goes. There's an old saying. 1 modification leads to 3 more modifications. This is true. It's happening alot on this build. Patience is playing a big part at the moment. I do one job, try and complete it. Get bored. Then move to some other part of the vehicle. This is needed on a big build, or the risk of stopping altogether comes knocking.
Just thinking.
Pile. Could you move this to the Type 4 section. Thanks