Wide band O2
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MRRAGPICKER
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Wide band O2
Is there a sticky or a thread that explains what wide band to get and the best way to use it?
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Re: Wide band O2
It's sorta like peanuts... some like them salty, some like sweet, some like both at the same time, and a few have to go to the emergency room if they even get too close to them.
I like the CAN flavor of WB02s as there is no analog offset to worry about. The Spartan3s work very well with any ECU that supports CAN, and the price/performance ratio is very high, also available with LSU4.9 sensors that have essentially full AFR range 10:1-free air (almost), useful if you are a diesel tuner for example.
On MS2E and MS3 it works beautifully.
See https://www.14point7.com/ ...It's one guy, have always had excellent sales and follow up support when needed.
(no affiliation, just a happy repeat customer)
I still use the JAW 1.3 I picked up used for $25...
Totally fixable if you blow it up (had a voltage regulator fry and full field alternator at 75 MPH, blew every bulb that was on in the car and a trace on the WBO2 controller, took 30 seconds to fix)
...and very, very fast response, as in can see a single event misfire.(random skipped injections due to some buggy early MS2E sequential firmware)
Innovate had huge quality issues with their units for a long time, but as they are still in business I will dangerously assume they fixed that. (Might want to research that some too)
I like the CAN flavor of WB02s as there is no analog offset to worry about. The Spartan3s work very well with any ECU that supports CAN, and the price/performance ratio is very high, also available with LSU4.9 sensors that have essentially full AFR range 10:1-free air (almost), useful if you are a diesel tuner for example.
On MS2E and MS3 it works beautifully.
See https://www.14point7.com/ ...It's one guy, have always had excellent sales and follow up support when needed.
(no affiliation, just a happy repeat customer)
I still use the JAW 1.3 I picked up used for $25...
Totally fixable if you blow it up (had a voltage regulator fry and full field alternator at 75 MPH, blew every bulb that was on in the car and a trace on the WBO2 controller, took 30 seconds to fix)
...and very, very fast response, as in can see a single event misfire.(random skipped injections due to some buggy early MS2E sequential firmware)
Innovate had huge quality issues with their units for a long time, but as they are still in business I will dangerously assume they fixed that. (Might want to research that some too)
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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MRRAGPICKER
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Re: Wide band O2
Thanks for the reply. I guess I should have included that I'm running dual dell 45s and just want the wide band to help with jetting.
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Re: Wide band O2
Mr. To sells an all-in-one, analog outs and just displays as well.
Used to sell a DIY $30 kit as well, readout and all, buy your own sensor..
May still do something similar.
Biggest downside is he's in Canada and you may get your parts in 3 days or 3 weeks depending on the various post offices mood as well as customs.
Used to sell a DIY $30 kit as well, readout and all, buy your own sensor..
May still do something similar.
Biggest downside is he's in Canada and you may get your parts in 3 days or 3 weeks depending on the various post offices mood as well as customs.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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MRRAGPICKER
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Re: Wide band O2
When I search for Mr. To, I get nothing.
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Re: Wide band O2
14point7.com follow link in my first reply.
Alan To is the fellows name. Good guy.
No affiliation, just a satisfied repeat customer.
Alan To is the fellows name. Good guy.
No affiliation, just a satisfied repeat customer.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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MRRAGPICKER
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Re: Wide band O2
14point7.com never replied to my request to buy his stuff. I ended up going with this. Along with a 123 distributor it made jetting and tuning the dual 45s easy. I think before I got this setup, I was running way rich.
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Re: Wide band O2
I've a Spartan 3 that is wired into my Ghia( Speeduino) , it's a pain to remove it when I want to use the wide band to check on my bus (DRLA's) ,so I just bought this . great value for money . easy to solder the connectors to the board .
https://www.14point7.com/products/sigma ... ler-free-2
https://www.14point7.com/products/sigma ... ler-free-2
No matter where you go , there you are !
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GARRICK.CLARK1
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Re: Wide band O2
I use a PLX.
Look them up.
Look them up.