1/4 mile times

Karmghia70 · Post by **Karmghia70** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 12:27 am

I went to the track last friday and here are the times I got with my 59 ragtop beetle w/ a 2.0l TypeIV.
1st run 16.567 @79.29
2nd run 16.135 @80.45
3rd run 16.297 @80.72
4th run 15.925 @81.13

Not bad for running on street tires.
If anyone else has some times they could post I would love to see them.

MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 1:00 am

Not bad, considering that is an engine capable of making that power for over 120K miles......Keep it up, when you want more power, drop in the 2270 and fly to the low 14's, maybe high 13's

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Jake Raby
Raby's Aircooled Technology
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GaRacer · Post by **GaRacer** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 8:44 pm

I have a small 2180 Type 1 andhave laid down a 11.904 @ 112 mph so far. These aircooled cars are to much fun!

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Steve Waters
67 Beetle 11.90 @ 112

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4Barrel Darryl · Post by **4Barrel Darryl** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 10:18 pm

1967 Type 1: All stock w/ adj beam, front disc and 4lug rear drums w/ Chromies.

R/T = .899
60 = 2.018
330 = 5.761
1/8 = 8.887
MPH = 79.03
1000 = 11.608
1/4 = 14.126
MPH = 84.13

Mild 1776cc (69x90.5), 7.3:1 C/R, P-Tech V6 heads 40x37, 1.1's w/ WEB #119, stock 1600DP end castings and MSD ign w/ 6AL, GENE BERG 1 5/8" merge header into A-1 Fatboy. DLI/Holley Powercharger and Holley 650 double pump mechanical 4150 carb.

Transform Freeway Flyer: 3.88:1 R&P, stock 1st through 4th, stock (damaged) rubber mounts and NO traction bar or aide of any kind. This detained launching ability and the need for easy shifts. The clutch tube is also broken and a #2300 Kennedy Pplate is used w/ GENE BERG street/strip disc.

Tires are All Season Pirelli HP's @ 215x65x15(26" tall) on 5.5" Chromies. Fronts are 185x65x15 on 4.5".

Made a relaxed pass and managed a good time for the cars given stage. Note 1/8 MPH vs. 1/4 MPH, 3rd gear fell flat(lean condition) and popped into 4th then let off and cruised.

James S. · Post by **James S.** » Tue Oct 23, 2001 10:22 am

1957 Oval
Full bodied car
1835cc
E120
7.5-1 compression
dual 44 webers
225/60-15 street tires
stock tranny with a shortened third only

Fastest time 16.259 at 80 something in the 1/4

Consistently runs 16.3 to 16.5 anywhere between 77-80 mph, probably just how I'm feeling that day and how hard I'm trying hehe. http://home.earthlink.net/~thevolksman

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Tue Oct 23, 2001 9:03 pm

All steel 74 Beetle with a 1904cc and Berg 5 speed. With the BIG bumpers removed, no rear or passanger seat, no spare, no fan belt, stinger and 26x6x15 M&H slicks my best time was 12.718 @ 103mph.
http://www.glenn-ring.com/beetle.html

UNVmyVW · Post by **UNVmyVW** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:11 am

Your 74 Bug weighs about 2000 pounds and can complete a 1/4 mile in about 12.71 seconds with a 1904cc? That means that you've got about 192.52 HP at the wheels!

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:41 am

It weighs 1850lbs and has 156hp at the rear wheels (measured on a Mustang wheel dyno). Even with the bumpers and full interior, the car doesn't weigh 2000lbs.

Are you surprised that a under 2 litre engine can run that fast??

James2 · Post by **James2** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:44 pm

I had a hard time believing this also, just to blunt and totally honest.

BTW, Glenn doesn't sound like a BS artist, and most of those Dyno programs show that the head flow make the biggest improvement in HP gains. Glenn has some killer heads on the car. I think it's entirley possible and believe it.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by UNVmyVW:
Your 74 Bug weighs about 2000 pounds and can complete a 1/4 mile in about 12.71 seconds with a 1904cc? That means that you've got about 192.52 HP at the wheels! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 3:57 pm

Well... displacement isn't everything. An internal combustion engine is just a air pump. The more air you can move the more power you will get. I have had extensive work on the heads, 42x37.5 valves, .543" of lift, dual Dellorto 45 DLRA, 1-3/4" headers and a Berg electronic ignition with 9.25:1 cr. Everything is balanced and the engine will run upto 8000rpm. The Berg 5 tranny with ZF diff also helps put the power down. Type 2 CVs and heavy duty axles allow the 26x6x15 M&H slicks to get plenty of traction.

It's not that hard to get into the 12's. And there are other all steel cars that are getting into the 11s, but with larger engines.

You know what they say... "drive it like you stole it"

Muffler Mike · Post by **Muffler Mike** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 4:24 pm

the good ole days of small motors.
before i was able to drive, my brother set up a 1800 cc 88x74 motor with some high end Dick nuss heads, cam and compression but still drove it on the street. and it was estemated at 180 hp at the flywheel. it also pushed his 71 bug at over 1900 lbs with driver to 12.80's @106 on soft compound radials. put some slicks on it and i can see some 12.60's at 103ish. maybe better.

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Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 4:32 pm

Sounds like the same weight and HP of my car.

BTW... If i was gonna BS, i'd say my engine was a 2300cc and not a midsized 1904cc. I'd get less people questioning the ETs.

Karmghia70 · Post by **Karmghia70** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:06 pm

So what I'm I doing wrong?

John BUG2180 · Post by **John BUG2180** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 6:35 pm

71 bug
no bumpers or seats-1725lbs
stock 3.88 trans w/diff 26x6 slicks
1641cc
home port job
flycut .125"
VZ-15 cam-don't like it
12.5 flywheel
cw crank
40 Dells
fan belt
14.79 ET forgot MPH
bogged tooez with slicks--flywheelweight???

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John Springsteel
VW drag racer
BUG2180@aol

James2 · Post by **James2** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 9:19 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Karmghia70:
So what I'm I doing wrong?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nothing, if the motor is stock.