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2316 longevity
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:53 pm
by Plastermaster
I gathered from the T4um thread on ceramic lifters that on a T4 the only thing that wears in the lower end is the cam and lifters, which can be remedied by the use of ceramic lifters. On the top end, any engine will need the heads freshened periodically, so what is it on the 2316 that makes it not a 100K engine? I can guess any engine with higher compression, or higher rpm may wear sooner, but I'd like to know what actually goes.
Thanks
Ron
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:46 pm
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
I have never had one "wear out"....
The "Annihilator" engine has a long stroke, short rods and a cam that is very aggressive. The engine is made for hard driving, and made to rev. Thje least amount of CR I have ever used on one of these engines was 9.7:1...
It may very well last more than 30-50K, BUT I don't want someone to try and bust my balls because I false advertised the engine as lasting for 100K.......
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:18 pm
by houseofghia
I've been thinking about this combo over a 2270. I want my ghia vert to move. Plus I will never put 100k on a car that's a fair wheather cruiser so it doesn't have to go 100k.
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:43 pm
by Plastermaster
I hear ya Jake. When someone opts for your 2316, they probably plan to USE it for what it was intended.
It's not the recomended engine for that "grocery getter".
House of Ghia, Jake could tell you better than me but I think the difference between the 2270 and the 2316 wouldn't be realised unless you were on the track (unless you're some kind of wild man).
Ron
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:39 pm
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
I have 7 2316 combos... The website needs updating BADLY!
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:06 pm
by houseofghia
Track!, who needs a track? The roads will do just fine. I use the ghia to have fun with. My wife has a Jag xjs convertible we use that for going out for ice cream. This one is being built to terrorize the streets. Cal lookers are suppossed to be fast, not just look fast.-Matt
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:12 pm
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
my 914 with a 2316 can go 110MPH in 3rd gear.......@ 7500 RPM....
Is that fast enough..
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:39 pm
by houseofghia
1960 ghia
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:43 pm
by houseofghia
horray for me, I just figuered out how to post a pic. Anyway the car's a 1960 on a 1969 pan. Looks fast but it isn't. YES JAKE, that would be fast enough! I want it.-Matt
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:00 pm
by Alpine
That is a pretty car. I would like one of every aircooled VW model ever made and put them in my own private museum ... but that would be greedy.
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:02 pm
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
Alpine wrote:That is a pretty car. I would like one of every aircooled VW model ever made and put them in my own private museum ... but that would be greedy.
No, then you'd be copying me......LOL
I'm 1/4 way there!
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:04 pm
by Guest
Sweet ride Matt
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:06 pm
by Guest
Thats me ..Ron plastermaster as guest
Ron
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:46 am
by houseofghia
Thanks for the compliments on the car.- Matt
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:00 pm
by Plastermaster
MASSIVE TYPE IV wrote:I have 7 2316 combos... The website needs updating BADLY!
It would be great to have a really good description how these different versions compare in all aspects of driving. I'm sure you have a good reason for putting different combos together. Maybe a chart that would rate each one as to idle, round town user friendly, accelleration, economy, etc. Especially with the 2316 since it is sort of a specific engine to begin with....it replaces the 2270 D and I am guessing even with all 7 versions the intended use will be narrower than the 2270.
Ron