fan blade reduction

synthesisdv · Post by **synthesisdv** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 8:54 am

before we balance the rotating assembly, I wanted to remove some blades from the fan.

I have seen them anywhere between 4 blades, 12 blades, 20, etc.
Any suggestions?

thanks,
dr

MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:30 am

To start I would recommend just every other to be removed. As you progress you can remove more and I can rebalance.

James2 · Post by **James2** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:32 am

Whoa!, never heard of this. This must be a type 4 deal?

synthesisdv · Post by **synthesisdv** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:43 am

stock fan cavitates above 4500, removing blades makes it more effient and less drag. We run continuously over 5000 rpm.

dr

MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:20 am

Absolutely.... Removing blades increases the stock fans cooling efficiency at high revs on production engines...

Or you could run a DTM! LOL

James2 · Post by **James2** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:19 am

What's wrong with a simple power pully?

synthesisdv · Post by **synthesisdv** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:21 am

TIV fans run directly off the crank, no pulleys involved.

dr

MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:45 am

Yep, it runs 1:1

Class 11 streeter · Post by **Class 11 streeter** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 2:09 pm

Does this fan surgery do anything for street driven engines? Would it hurt more than help?

synthesisdv · Post by **synthesisdv** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 2:15 pm

not good on the street. We only idle for a few minutes max on the grid and then its up and down the rev counter between 4500 and 7000.

Its hard to do that on the street.

dr

MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:28 pm

On the street it will increase temps till you are running 5K. Also the F Prod cars run tighter gearing and the engine has less load applied than on the street. This helps with cooling.

On Marks FP car he is running his DTM at only 1.24:1 drive and the engine won't go over 325 unless he is in fifth and on the straight then it hits 350 for a second... with the 911 fan it was running 375-400 all the time!

lmcchesney · Post by **lmcchesney** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:50 am

Where is the crossover of reduced engine load vs increased air flow and less cavitation by removing teeth?
Remove one tooth per sector?

Thaks,
L. McChesney
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synthesisdv · Post by **synthesisdv** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:10 am

I removed 6 blades per 1/4, or per the space in between the mounting bosses. Some have removed all but 2 blades per 1/4 and some have left only the mounting bosses making essentially a 4 blade fan.

With 20 blades total, I thought that was a good place to start.

dr

raygreenwood · Post by **raygreenwood** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:44 am

Ok...here is an odd related question I have been wondering about for some time.
What if you reduced say every other blade for the street...then added an outer set of "stator" type blade like the type 3 fan combination has?

Also, he 4 main posts on the type 4 fan that hold the alternator pulley ring to the fan...could be "faired" better...maybe extended to be slightly longer towards the center of the fan. Either way, they should offer less resistance and turbulence to incoming air.

I have been speculating on machining a type 3 outer fan pulley to be bolted onto the outer end of a type 4 fan just to see what happens. Ray

Rosebob · Post by **Rosebob** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:50 pm

Wow, It seems like my type3's stock cooling system has more in common to a type4 than a type1? I'm assuming all this removing of blades is strictly a racing thing?