Too Good To Be True Welder

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Searoy
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Too Good To Be True Welder

Post by Searoy »

Check this out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3814402127

I'm sure it's a Made in China cheapo, but just exactly what's wrong with it? I'm unfamiliar with the specifics of inverter machines and TIGs as well. This seems too good to be true, even if it's a very basic model. I suppose all I would want to add is a foot pedal.

Anyone have experience or knowledge about these cheapo inverter TIGs?
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Puck
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Post by Puck »

Here is the manufactures website.

http://www.arc1weldsafe.com/Machineshomepage.htm

There is nothing wrong with an inverter machine. They are lighter weight and from what I know weld just fine.

The Ebay one is a DC machine which means you can only weld steel. Also there is no foot control and I doubt you can add one. The gas control is on the torch which means you will waste a lot of gas turning it on before you make a weld and off after the weld compleation. Also it does not come with a regulator. It is 80 amps so you are going to be limited in what you can weld.

One thing I have seen with cheap import welders is finding replacement parts. Most of the parts are not interchangable with all the standard stuff. Now this place might be different but I had a cheap MIG and could not find any parts.

I think it would be easy to quickly outgrow this welder.
mharney
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Post by mharney »

Well, a really good TIG user can weld aluminum on DC, but thin aluminum is nearly impossible to keep from melting on DC. You can also weld brass using silicon bronze rod. Magnesium is just about impossible to weld on DC. Using a lot of helium and less argon used to help me with aluminum.

The lack of a footpedal gives you no control over your heat without the knobs, and not being able to switch your purge on and off is a real hassle. You get what you pay for here. Better have a good circuit in the house too.
VW Grommet
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Post by VW Grommet »

I went with a Thermal Arc 185 inverter machine..let me tell you, this thing is smooth..., can't tell you on a cheaper inverter tig machine since I read enough and got the 185. It can do 1/4" no problem, HF start does wonders for the tungsten life, even the stick side is powerful. If you are looking for a good tig welder, this one gets my recommendation. Don't forget the auto-dark hood..after many years of the old flip down style, this new ones are incredible, big improvement.

The best welding info forum IMO
http://www.hobartwelders.com/mboard/index.php
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Re: Too Good To Be True Welder

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Searoy wrote:Check this out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3814402127

I'm sure it's a Made in China cheapo, but just exactly what's wrong with it? I'm unfamiliar with the specifics of inverter machines and TIGs as well. This seems too good to be true, even if it's a very basic model. I suppose all I would want to add is a foot pedal.

Anyone have experience or knowledge about these cheapo inverter TIGs?
Actually the Arcone is not a cheapo chinese machine it's made in Italy
I own one and paid a lot more ($ 500) than the one listed on ebay I just wish I knew about it a year ago, I weld aluminum with this little wonder though it's not
as easy as welding steel or chrome moly
at that price it is the best scratch start TIG I know , I was introducet to them by a friend who runs circle track and they use them in their shop
for just about anything. A wonderful machine if you ask me
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Post by Guest »

Puck wrote:Here is the manufactures website.

http://www.arc1weldsafe.com/Machineshomepage.htm

One thing I have seen with cheap import welders is finding replacement parts. Most of the parts are not interchangable with all the standard stuff. Now this place might be different but I had a cheap MIG and could not find any parts.
Arcone is a serious company and they offer full repair service they are very nice and helpful
poldo

Post by poldo »

They are made by

http://www.fimer.com/sitoweb/ing/search ... inverter=i

the name behind daytona Mig and also involved with esab
the parts are available and pretty standard it uses a weldcraft type torch
very nice by the way..
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Post by Guest »

poldo wrote:They are made by

http://www.fimer.com/sitoweb/ing/search ... inverter=i

the name behind daytona Mig and also involved with esab
the parts are available and pretty standard it uses a weldcraft type torch
very nice by the way..
BTW The one I have is the newer model 90 amp but I know the little 80 amp devil very well
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