Stock Type 2 Exhaust into Type 1

general_lee_jr · Post by **general_lee_jr** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:16 pm

Why wont a Stock Type 2 Exhaust fit into a type 1. I have no clue about a bus besides they look pretty cool. Is it clearence issues with the type 1 with the body or what? I was just wondering why a header would not fit. Forget about the heat option. Basically why would it fit in a 72-74 transporter but not a bug? More room in a bus ? Thanks, GLJ

dstar · Post by **dstar** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:25 pm

It would stick WAY out the back!

Have you ever tore up your shin-bone on a trailer hitch that sticks
WAY out the back of a truck?

HURTS like HELL!

Don

pantswagen · Post by **pantswagen** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:26 pm

stock type 4 silencer
is 3 feet wide

tuna · Post by **tuna** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:15 pm

First off, the exhaust system in the Bus was designed to clear the stock fanshroud. If you put that same system in a Bug, converted to upright, it will stick out past the apron. That doesn't include the fact that the muffler is wide and straight, so it's going to act as a poor bumper.

The other side to look at is that the stock muffler is very restrictive. You are better off with getting a header/QP for a Bus and shortening the heaterboxes. You'll get better performance and aesthetically the car will look nicer.

So leave the Bus mufflers to those of us Bus owners.

Tuna

general_lee_jr · Post by **general_lee_jr** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:54 pm

So thats why everybody says to shorten the j-tubes or heater boxes from the stock exhaust. Wow, I learn something everyday. Now my tooth hurts!

general_lee_jr · Post by **general_lee_jr** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:35 pm

tuna wrote: You are better off with getting a header/QP for a Bus and shortening the heaterboxes.

Tuna

Where would one find a header/QP for a bus? I guess it would be '72-74?

general_lee_jr · Post by **general_lee_jr** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:07 pm

Anybody have any clues to what kind of exaust header I should be looking for, for the upright conversion?

http://www.empius.com/e/exhaustsystems.html

Boneloader · Post by **Boneloader** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:13 pm

general_lee_jr wrote:Anybody have any clues to what kind of exaust header I should be looking for, for the upright conversion?

http://www.empius.com/e/exhaustsystems.html

I think #3319 would work, with a set of shortened 411 head pipes, or shortened heaterboxes (I gave up trying to shorten the heater boxes).

I have one of those exhausts in my garage... let me know if you want any pictures or measurments.

~Troy

tuna · Post by **tuna** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:27 pm

GLJ,

I had # 3439 or something similar from Bugpack or Thunderbird in mind. I believe one of our members here, Eddie, uses a similar header with a custom turbo muffler on his 1911cc in his Bug.

Tuna

general_lee_jr · Post by **general_lee_jr** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:30 pm

I am trying to figure out my options. If this A1 header is expensive then I will have to go budget. I have a friend who owns a muffler shop in Winder that can do the welding for me. I would love to have one of the A1 header but I have a feeling I wont be able to afford it.

Thanks tuna!

Boneloader · Post by **Boneloader** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:48 pm

Here are some pics and measurements of that header... this one came out of a 411, I think. I shortened the head pipes 3". I am going to use the "backbox" from LA Performance instead of this glass pack.

I don't think this one would bolt up to a bug without some cutting... I could verify that for you as I am about to mock up my 65's engine compartment soon. Also, take a look at Joe Cali's car at http://www.nextgen-usa.com/. I think he trimmed his fenders up to clear a similar (dual) exhaust.