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I have been pondering on this for a while. I was wondering what it would take and how driveable it would be. I have this Ghia that needs some serious torque to move my fat arse around.

Will it be too difficult to get that level of torque from a 2270? or is it better to move up to a 2316? I want driveability and torque more than anything.

I know the 1910 is finally done and running smooth, but I have that certain decease



Thanks,


Ephry

Move to a 2316..

You can make that torque with much less tuning and more reliability..

Hmm, good to know. From a reliability/longevity standpoint, I guess the better choice would be the 2270. How reliable can the 2316 be Jake? I assume both engines would not be that far off in price from eachother.

Ephry

Built correctly- Just as reliable as a 2270.

In fact until you add BS parts or go to a 2800+cc engine no type 4 becomes unreliable..

Good to know. Well, parts I have pnety of. Thanks for the input Jake. I do like the 2270 though, maybe for the Bug. The ghia definitely needs more grunt with me in it.


Ephry

Ephry73 wrote:Good to know. Well, parts I have pnety of. Thanks for the input Jake. I do like the 2270 though, maybe for the Bug. The ghia definitely needs more grunt with me in it.


Ephry

I weigh in at about 155. When I get the 2270 in my Ghia we can race. If we sent the accelleration times to jake, he can add a column to his charts, Like "for drivers over 250 lbs" Then he can give the engine the appropiate number of stars. LOL.

Ron

Hehe, Good one Ron. I weight almost double that. 265lbs here. But it will be good comparison, at least to estimate engine needs. Full bodied cars and lightened cars and so on.





Ephry

Hey Jake,

Now that the A-1 system has been tested to flow so well, do you think then that a 2270 would be the ticket for what l want?



Ephry

This combo needs some road testing first before I can make an accurate observation.

I hear you. Thanks for doing all of this Jake.


Ephry

This is probably a dead horse, but, with the A-1 all tested, how can that combo of A-1 and a propperly set 2270 work for a dual purpose car?

Also, looking at the 2270 engine kit on your store, I wanted to get it with ceramics. Are those still not available?

Did you get my PM on the 2073?

Just curious.


Ephry

ephry, The 170 pounds of torque may well be a capability of a complete one of my engines with many of the same traits as plastermaster's.. But not with a kit simply because the kits are a much more simple engine and not available for dyno tuning which would definately be a key player to optimizing this combo to the degree it needs to be to make the power..

Also- Ceramic lifters are now removed from the Type 4 Store until the producer can keep up better- we have not completed an engine for 4 weeks in the shop because we have no ceramic lifters and 5 back orders through the store- thats why I discontinued them.

I seem to have missed the posts between the lifter problem solved and this one. Aren't reliable lifters available again? Why the dependency still on ceramics?

Yes, I have the issues worked out... BUT all my engines are accomplished through a proposal basis and all these engines were proposed with ceramic lifters- that can't be changed..

Also- Ceramic lifters are a standard on my complete engines just like cryogenics, its a huge edge that we have over the guys that think they are a competitor but have never heard of or used a ceramic lifter....

I simply can't afford a single failure or even the slightest hint of one...

Gotcha. Well, I still want to get this 2073 started, played with and done. Should be ok for playing around. I am thinking of ditching the Hydraulic lifter/camshaft combo for later.


Ceramics are lighter, and no compatability issues. Save weight, increase capability for RPMs and easier on the whole valvetrain. For the money, it's a great thing to get.

I am definitely planning that 2270 for the Fall. Once school is over and I have some cash in Pocket.



Ephry