Jake, what exactly is included in an engine kit?
- Mark the canuck
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Jake, what exactly is included in an engine kit?
I realize no casework and balancing
What about?
Flywheel
1.7 rockers
Rocker spacers
Rocker shims
8mm rocker studs
Cylinder shims
Pushrod tubes
Ceramic lifters
The 914 kits, I take it you send in your head cores?so do you order a 914 kit if it?s going in a bug?
What pistons are in the 5563cc kits?
Anything else not included in a longblock kit? Any core charges, etc.?
I take it you make a cam selection when you phone the customer.
You might want to list these items on the site, so your not answering these questions all the time and there is no surprises for the customer after he places his order.
I have a couple of guys interested in these kits that?s why I?m asking.
Cheers
What about?
Flywheel
1.7 rockers
Rocker spacers
Rocker shims
8mm rocker studs
Cylinder shims
Pushrod tubes
Ceramic lifters
The 914 kits, I take it you send in your head cores?so do you order a 914 kit if it?s going in a bug?
What pistons are in the 5563cc kits?
Anything else not included in a longblock kit? Any core charges, etc.?
I take it you make a cam selection when you phone the customer.
You might want to list these items on the site, so your not answering these questions all the time and there is no surprises for the customer after he places his order.
I have a couple of guys interested in these kits that?s why I?m asking.
Cheers
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All the part numbers listed at the bottom of each page are included in a kit. Basically here is the list.
This list is for the 2270 for a VW application. The list is the same for a 914 app, but the parts used for flywheel, pressure plate and clutch disc change, and that impacts the price.
This is basically everything to build a longblock, you can add the rest with the pull down menus in product details.
Single thrust cam bearings 4304
Cam gear- modified for TI oil pump # 5020 8312
Dual pattern cam (163/86B) 9500
Main dowel pins 2088
Main bearings 4008
Rod bearings 4136
DPR 78.4 Welded counterweighted crank 2036
Brass dizzy drive gear 2068
Timing gear, (Used) 2057
Timing gear spacer ring (used) 2060
Conn. Rods- Clearanced 3030
gasket set 20
Front oil seal 4
rear oil seal 8
Galley plug kit 5080
Engine hardware kit 80
Curil K2 sealant- Tube 16001
Curil T-Tube 16004
Loctite 518 16016
Permatex teflon thread sealant 16028
CAM PLUG 125
Sump screen 5096
Oil pump - Modified 5020
Full flow cover 5032
oil filter 5112
Pistons 6014
Piston rings 6104
Cylinders 6204
cylinder shims 6508
Cylinder head seemblies-complete 7424
lifters 8016
Pushrod tubes 68
Pushrod tube shims 76
manton chromoly Pushrods 8051
Heavy duty rocker shaft studs 8252
heavy duty rocker arm nuts 8256
911 valve adjusters 8244
valve adjuster nut 8232
solid rocker shaft spacers 8220
rocker shaft and arm kit- modified for 1.7 rockers 8212
oil cooler 5129
Conversion 210mm flywheel 10008
clutch disc-210mm 10012
pressure plate 215mm 10016
spark plugs 14041
This kit cost 4324.00
You can always email me for a full spreadsheet of what parts comprise each engine kit, their RAT part#s and the face of them.
I am working to upload this list into the software somehow. Anyone interested in a kit can email me for my Excel spreadsheets with itemized listings of whats included.
BTW- Mark is my only Canadian Rep, you can get any RAT part through him.
This list is for the 2270 for a VW application. The list is the same for a 914 app, but the parts used for flywheel, pressure plate and clutch disc change, and that impacts the price.
This is basically everything to build a longblock, you can add the rest with the pull down menus in product details.
Single thrust cam bearings 4304
Cam gear- modified for TI oil pump # 5020 8312
Dual pattern cam (163/86B) 9500
Main dowel pins 2088
Main bearings 4008
Rod bearings 4136
DPR 78.4 Welded counterweighted crank 2036
Brass dizzy drive gear 2068
Timing gear, (Used) 2057
Timing gear spacer ring (used) 2060
Conn. Rods- Clearanced 3030
gasket set 20
Front oil seal 4
rear oil seal 8
Galley plug kit 5080
Engine hardware kit 80
Curil K2 sealant- Tube 16001
Curil T-Tube 16004
Loctite 518 16016
Permatex teflon thread sealant 16028
CAM PLUG 125
Sump screen 5096
Oil pump - Modified 5020
Full flow cover 5032
oil filter 5112
Pistons 6014
Piston rings 6104
Cylinders 6204
cylinder shims 6508
Cylinder head seemblies-complete 7424
lifters 8016
Pushrod tubes 68
Pushrod tube shims 76
manton chromoly Pushrods 8051
Heavy duty rocker shaft studs 8252
heavy duty rocker arm nuts 8256
911 valve adjusters 8244
valve adjuster nut 8232
solid rocker shaft spacers 8220
rocker shaft and arm kit- modified for 1.7 rockers 8212
oil cooler 5129
Conversion 210mm flywheel 10008
clutch disc-210mm 10012
pressure plate 215mm 10016
spark plugs 14041
This kit cost 4324.00
You can always email me for a full spreadsheet of what parts comprise each engine kit, their RAT part#s and the face of them.
I am working to upload this list into the software somehow. Anyone interested in a kit can email me for my Excel spreadsheets with itemized listings of whats included.
BTW- Mark is my only Canadian Rep, you can get any RAT part through him.
Last edited by MASSIVE TYPE IV on Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:53 am, edited 2 times in total.
- Mark the canuck
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In Ontario customs collects both GST and PST, Canada Post charges $5 for brokerage.
UPS charges $45 brokerage and often double dips on the shipping.
Canada Post airmail takes 2 weeks to ship packages from the states, while UPS ground is often 5-7 days.
Never have shipped with Fed Ex, etc. but I've heard they cost more, but that's 2nd hand info, could be wrong.
UPS charges $45 brokerage and often double dips on the shipping.

Canada Post airmail takes 2 weeks to ship packages from the states, while UPS ground is often 5-7 days.
Never have shipped with Fed Ex, etc. but I've heard they cost more, but that's 2nd hand info, could be wrong.
- Mark the canuck
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- Mark the canuck
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Thanks Jake...I offer the complete Rat line-up including DTM's (T4's in stock) and will build any RAT kit, or if you want Jake to build it, I'll install it, no problems.MASSIVE TYPE IV wrote: BTW- Mark is my only Canadian Rep, you can get any RAT part through him.
I'm hoping to also have my parts store/site up later this spring.
A note: we all like to save some coin and if you buy your kit direct I'll still build it, but if you have not consulted me prior to your purchase, any mistake on your order is your problem/cost.
If you are importing your kit/parts legally (you are right?...I don't want to know, your problem) my prices will be hard to beat.
- martilo
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Mark, we might take that offline, but I have the possibility of taking that from Algeria. Then I'll have to trade off between shipping costs and taxes in Canada. I'll check with my broker here.
Anyway, its a good news to know you're there. Its a shorter ride than GA! (it took me a little while to figure that there was more than one Cleveland!!!)
Anyway, its a good news to know you're there. Its a shorter ride than GA! (it took me a little while to figure that there was more than one Cleveland!!!)
- suntour
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Re: Jake, what exactly is included in an engine kit?
I didnt see that on the web store. Wow, a 5.5 liter engine.Mark the canuck wrote:What pistons are in the 5563cc kits?

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