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good full brake kit?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:03 pm
by bender
hi guys
whice full brake kit is recomended for my 73 914?
including discs( i prefer halow )
and were can i get it?
thaNKS alot
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:44 am
by Bleyseng
The 914club sells a front hub for the 911 M calipers with vented rotors. For the rear there is a kit that spaces the stock calipers for the vented rotors, but you will have to drill the disc to stay four bolt.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:45 am
by bender
thanks
but im looking for a sport full kit with out makeing any changes
any ideas?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:58 am
by Marc
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:40 am
by bender
thanks alot but im looking for a full kit
thanks agian
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:46 am
by Marc
What does "without making any changes" mean?
If you just want a full kit to service the stock system completely, see what Pelican has to offer. If you want to upgrade the brake performance beyond stock you aren't going to get far without some alterations...
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:35 am
by Dave_Darling
There are no stock ventilated rotors (if that's what you mean by "hollow"). So you're not going to be able to get those without making any changes.
You can rebuild your stock calipers and replace the front and rear rotors with stock parts, and replace your brake pads with something moderately aggressive. That will result in good fairly-short stopping distances, if you make sure everything is in good working order. I am told Hawk HP pads, or Porterfield's "street" compound, are amazing pads.
Do you want to keep your four-lug wheels? If so, then your options are pretty limited. Either do the BMW caliper swap and keep your stock solid rotors, or get the billet hubs and upgrade to 911 "M" calipers and vented rotors. Those are fronts only, BTW. The rears don't do that much work so upgrading them is not going to make much difference.
If you want to go five-lug, bolting in a 911 front suspension is the easiest way to go. Check the "five lug conversion guide" on Pelican's website. Also see the "five lug rear conversion" tech article.
There are lots of options, but they all require "changing something"...
--DD
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:58 pm
by bender
thanks a lot!!
what about this porsche kit 4 344$???
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:26 pm
by Marc
What about it? Looks like 4 new stock-replacement Zimmerman rotors and some steel-braided flexlines with a set of new pads, can't tell what they are. That's about $200 worth of rotors; stock pads go for around $50...the lines may give a slight improvement in pedal feel (not so much if your existing stock lines are in good shape); if the pads are more aggressive than OEM braking could be improved, but this is basically a stock setup - not what Dave's talking about.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:02 pm
by bender
Marc wrote:What about it? Looks like 4 new stock-replacement Zimmerman rotors and some steel-braided flexlines with a set of new pads, can't tell what they are. That's about $200 worth of rotors; stock pads go for around $50...the lines may give a slight improvement in pedal feel (not so much if your existing stock lines are in good shape); if the pads are more aggressive than OEM braking could be improved, but this is basically a stock setup - not what Dave's talking about.
is there any KIT like this but only a little bit better??
thanks
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:10 pm
by Marc
I don't understand your fixation on a kit. Is your entire braking system gunny-sacked so everything needs changing? That's the easiest time to justify the major upgrades that Dave mentioned. If the rotors are still good (or will be if you have them turned) and the calipers are working OK, just get some good pads (BTW, just installing pads on a 914 is a bit of a PITA compared to most cars - have you ever done it?) and check the flexlines - if they're original, they probably need replacement.
There used to be one outfit that sold the BMW calipers and called that a "kit"...but why pay top dollar for something you can pick up cheaper elsewhere?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:32 pm
by Bleyseng
bender wrote:Marc wrote:What about it? Looks like 4 new stock-replacement Zimmerman rotors and some steel-braided flexlines with a set of new pads, can't tell what they are. That's about $200 worth of rotors; stock pads go for around $50...the lines may give a slight improvement in pedal feel (not so much if your existing stock lines are in good shape); if the pads are more aggressive than OEM braking could be improved, but this is basically a stock setup - not what Dave's talking about.
is there any KIT like this but only a little bit better??
thanks
No, there is no KIT to improve the brakes like vented rotors as they don't exist UNLESS you get the billet front hubs that accept the 911 vented front rotors. You then add a set of rebuilt 911 M calipers and BAM! you have a completed KIT that will brake your ass off.
or buy a complete 911 front end and bolt it on, now thats a KIT from PORSCHE.
Geoff