Is this a challenge for Jake?

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Is this a challenge for Jake?

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I found this on usenet from, apparently, a guy from hot vws magazine. I hope a TIV makes it into the mix.. hint, hint..

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From: "Dean Kirsten" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled
Subject: VW Engine Build-Off Input Request

      Hot VWs magazine is interested in exploring the possibility of doing a VW Engine Build-Off, which would showcase a number of different air-cooled VW engine combinations, each compared on a computer-controlled flywheel dyno, during back-to-back tests. Those of you VW engine builders that are SERIOUS, I mean serious, about competing in some sort of engine build-off, I need to hear from you via e-mail. (My address is; [email protected]) I want to hear from only the guys that are capable of providing a complete, ready to run engine to a location in southern California for this test. You are responsible for all shipping/transportation costs of that engine (and yourself!) to and from the dyno location (to be announced - TBA). You are also responsible for all parts that go into that engine. Nothing in the way of parts will be provided in this test. This engine will be under your control before, during and after the test - it belongs to you! I figure this test could happen next winter, giving everyone plenty of time to build an engine.

      Now, what that engine is going to be, will be up to the findings of this request. And the tests used (hp, torque, head temp, oil temp, etc), will be up to you beforehand. Now, if I only get four builders, no deal. If I get ten builders with ten completely different ideas, no deal. As a start, I think this engine should be at least 2000cc, but maximum bore size is 94mm (sorry, no 4-inch bores). It should be considered an engine that could be driven on the street and fit into a sedan, and what that exactly means will be (TBA). It is to be aspirated (carburetors, manual fuel injection or EFI), with no turbos, blowers, nitrous, or any other power boosters allowed. It will run on gasoline (with no additives!), supplied at the dyno test, octane rating will be (TBA). It should have a cooling system, a charging system w/fan belt in use, and a muffler(s). This engine will not be placed in a car for performance test, drag racing, mileage or other infield testing. Only the dyno test will be used for this one. Why? Time and money! We are not Road and Track!

      So guys, this is your chance to sound off. It is open to anyone. No one will see these letters other than the staff of Hot VWs. I will give you about two weeks to get in touch with me via the e-mail address found above. The outcome of this test could be a large story in Hot VWs, and the best combination (whatever that means), will get a complete story of what went into one of these engines! If I don't hear from you, I will assume that you are a non-player, and can not, for some reason, able to meet these basic guidelines (travel time, out-of-pocket costs, etc). Hope to hear from you soon, Dean Kirsten/ Hot VWs. My e-mail address is: [email protected]
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Post by davygrvy »

Jake, If you can't make it, I'll just take Plastermaster's motor down there :lol:
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This subject is also a thread HERE on the STF:
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=96493

Notice MY participation in this discussion, where I bring forth to light,
the transgressions of DB&HVW mag against the Type 4......
:lol:

I thought the last time Jake talked to them, he told them to get bent?
:wink:
BUWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Just kidding!
:twisted:

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Post by MASSIVE TYPE IV »

Hot VWs will be AT the RAT compound February 6-10 to do a comprehensive story on the TIV engine. This has been planned for several months but is finally happening. I'm not at liberty to share details currently about the buildup, as that would not be fair to the magazine. I can say that a brand new development that Len and I have been working on silently will be revealed in the article and that development will change a ton about the TIV engine and the cost of building a MassIVe engine!

The engine builder buildoff has taken a different turn since Dean's post as someone else already had an event similar planned and Dean did not know it.

I DID send in my email to Hot VWs stating that I would love to be a part of it, no matter if I had to build a TI or a TIV. heck I kinda liked the idea of having to buld a TI, it would make me the less experienced under dog and I love to be the underdog as much as I love a challenge........ Plus if I did win just think of how bad the TI guys would have "It" splattered in their faces!
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Post by dstar »

TEASE!

NO wonder you and Len are withholding *evidence*!
:lol:

I was wondering when you guys where gonna let the cat outta the bag.
At least now we know it will be in the May issue of DB&HVWs!
:twisted:

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Post by MASSIVE TYPE IV »

Sometime around May I would suppose!
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Post by seahag »

Maybe we should just say"heads up",he ,he,he,he!
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Post by Can Drive Soon »

Soo long to wait if you think about it, but time flys........
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Post by Bugfuel »

Does the May issue hit the newsstands in January?

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Jan :shock: :lol:
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Post by MASSIVE TYPE IV »

It'll be here in no time....

I'm working on the engine we'll be using in the article now and it'll be up for grabs when the article is over (with no wait time).... its a 2270 :-)
There is mucho more to come, stay tuned..
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Post by dr. no »

Now if only Bob Hoover were building one....
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Post by MASSIVE TYPE IV »

Yep.
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Post by dstar »

Bob passed a year ago this Friday.

I will remember him well. Reading his posts is what convinced
me that flying in an airplane that I built is safe.
:lol:

RIP Bob, you had many years here and for what I have seen,
you did your best to enjoy them.

That is all any of us can ask for, or expect.

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Post by MASSIVE TYPE IV »

Really?
I had no idea that he did, its because of him that I was able to make the TI DTM function correctly. Without his help it would have been tossed away as a failure.
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Post by dr. no »

Huh?
Then someone has been doing an awfully good job of channeling him on the AirVW group, as recently as 1/6/06. It would be hard to fake his "voice".
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