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Are they worth it?

That's a sort of wide open question. How about some details - year of bus, engine, driving style?

71 Bus. New 1600cc motor that will be put in it this weekend. So Cal driver. Hills galore. Not looking to race, but give it some juice up the hills and make it as efficient as possible. Old tail pipe fell off and since I'm about to put a new motor in, I figure maybe this is the time to consider headers...

It might gain you a couple horsepower, but at the expense of a little torque.

Yeah, I talked to someone local and they said that the bus exhaust was designed to give the engine more backpressure so it would have more power in the hills. I was told that if I ran headers, I would notice a loss of climbing power.

There is a line across the road at the top of a freeway onramp that I drive on everyday. The header was a sugar pill, as I thought I was going quicker with it, but found that I was up to 56mph when I crossed the line wether I ran a header or a stock muffler. 64 bus, 1600DP.

If you use a 1800 t-2 muffler The kit is $200.00 you will get more performance and it will be quiet and not drag on the ground like the headers everyone sells, it fits up niclly in the stock locatation. the only draw back is you will neen to flange your heater boxes and modifiy the Primary pipe. Jess

That's an idea I was considering for my original 71 bus. CIP sells a Type3 exaust kit that uses a stock 72-74 bus (Type4) muffler and has pipes that adapt it to the Type3. Since the heads are same as a Type1 the upper pipes will bolt right up and all that's left is to adapt the heater boxes to the lowers. Then you could use their large diameter heater boxes to complete the bigger overall exaust. You get stock quiet muffler sound and fit with the size to match an 1800 Type1 (or larger) motor. Sounds good but wonder if it will fit like the original bus muffler?

It does it will be about 1 inche lower than stock also the Tip that is in the kit fit a T-3 cut and rotate weld back on. It's a sweet set up I use them for my W B X C motored T-2's.
Jess

Hey, thanks for the response! I've checked your website, very interesting items on it, unlike any other I've seen. Have you thought of putting together a bus exaust kit like we've discussed? I'd be interested, and I'm sure many other bus owners with raspy, rusty, ugly headers hanging out below the bumper would like it too. Also, those 4-piston calipers for the stock type1 front brakes sound neat, although the pic shows what appear to be 2-piston calipers. What car are those from? The price is very tempting at only around $100 each, and they would go very well with the rather large rear discs that we have been installing on our bugs.

Those are generic caliper photos. The 1800 system is being sold at presnt from ohter suppliers. It is for the T-3 on a T-2 you could use T-3 heater boxes it would be a bolt in but for the rear engine bar is in the way. I build a new engine carrier for the W B X C when using this exhaust. Jess